In the end, is talent not just the aptitude of an individual towards a given subject?
Yes.
ok ok, you got me on that…
you have to be asian.
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On my opinion the SF or any other game is talent…I think that all is practice…look at SF III’s parry…do you remember the legendary video of Daigo vs Justin when Daigo parries Chun-Li (Justin)'s special ?? Well you can’t make that the first or the second time you play the game…so on my opinion is all practice…
I’d agree with aptittude. I mean, you aren’t born and can magically know how to FADC or time links but you may learn much faster than someone who doesnt have an aptittude like you do. Regardless, it takes a lot of practice. The more and more I play, the more and more I realize this.
It took me hella weeks of training mode to get parries down on reaction. like going character by character, having do their moves, specials, etc.
I dont know how i managed to sit there and do that for that long, but it payed off.
then again, i would practice with some friends, and some of them had no parry potential at all, so they gave up 3s or didnt used K/P groove.
that full parry on jwong was just amazing though.
Both reaction time and execution can be improved, meaning the best you can get from talent is a head start. Look at it this way: after 1 week of playing you know when to block a flowchart ken’s DP, after 15 years you know what even the best of players are about to do. It’s a matter of experience, if you’ve been practicing for a while without improving, maybe you’re not practicing right. This is why some sports clubs train juniors better than others- better facilities and better coaches.
There are a few reasons why many of us won’t reach top level. For one the top level players have a head start if you’re new to the scene, and they’re still constantly improving. And it takes lots of time and dedication, so some people just can’t because of other obligations (work/family/whatever).
But for the rest, the entire allure of SF is that we can reach top level if we put in what’s needed. When I watch a match between Federer and Nadal, I don’t see anything I can try the next time I pick up a racket. When I watch Nuki vs Mago, I learn a lot of things I can use right now. Of course I can’t do them as well as Nuki, but that’s because he has a head start, trains more often, and more importantly, trains better. None of those things are due to talent.
In an interview he has like three years ago he says He’s been playing for ten years.
Is he really a natural? I’d say the biggest part is just experience.
669ms 94% 65 correct 7680 on 2nd try…funny test but I think it has no meaning to sf4, not in the casual bracket :>
fast, accurate reaction is fine but almost useless for me cause I need way more practice - opponents srk blocked, I cant execute the combo to 100% I wanted to do, as an example- .
b2t: How do I see talent and practise in sf4?
Casual, ambitioned “just for fun” gamers: 80% practise, 20% talent (5% luck included)
Pros (and people who think that they have to earn their money with gaming): 95% practise and experience, 5% talent (1% luck included).
In my opinion, everything that can happen in sf4 can be learned and practised. Starting with the knowledge of every character, move, behavior and different tactics to mindplay games of the opponent. Everything can be learned if you want to invest “enough” time.
You do realise that you can also train reaction time? Same way you can train to score better in IQ tests.
People who compete at a very high level of a reaction based game will over a period of time develop stronger reaction skills than those who do not play at that level.
Playing the best players, getting the best knowledge and spending the most time will make you the best. There are very few things in life which are determined by the limitations of your DNA. There’s far FAR bigger and more numerous hurdles to overcome before you hit the wall of your genetics.