forgot who it was, but apparently hes a famous vampire savior player? too drunk now to remember.
good stuff w the seth tho his combos are on point. always nice cause i can learn some shit from other seths.
sorry i havent been playign seth lately, everyone is requesting that i play him but im saving that shit for evo
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Feedback? Next vid that I’m still uploading atm contains me getting absolutely destroyed by a boxer that won’t jump or headbutt just because I want him to. :tdown:
Just started playing again after months not doing so (never was good to start with so the whole “noob!” thing isn’t needed, though feel free certainly) due to a screwed up ps3, so just tried picking up seth over the past 1-3 days … can’t quite remember … so trying to get a feel for him still.
Not everything that comes out is what I want though, feels like inputs are dropped or going nuts at times, but for now I’m putting that down to human error and lag.
Just watched the first two rounds, FP headbutt is punishable on block with mk firework kicks.
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[]Work on the cr.lk xx cr.lp -> cr.mp xx mk Hyakuretsu combo more. You’re inconsistent. I prefer cr.lk xx close s.lk -> cr.mp xx mk Hyakuretsu because it does more damage.
[]If you’re gonna reversal SPD on your wakeup, do an EX SPD. Seth doesn’t need that much meter, and it will beat pokes as well as throws and blocking. It also does more damage. Don’t reversal much with Seth, though, unless it’s a KKK teleport backwards.
[]Learn the ultra followup trap. You throw a lp sonic boom. You can then do a teleport and mix up which way they have to block the sonic boom. You combo into cr.lk xx cr.lp -> cr.mp xx mk Hyakuretsu. Even if you don’t have the trap down, throw a lp sonic boom so you can walljump in better.
[]Teleport -> SPD is a gimmick, not a legitimate offense. Good players will punish a teleport in every time. At least do an EX SPD so you don’t get beat by pokes.
[]In my humble opinion lp Sonic Boom > other Sonic Booms for zoning.
[]Every time you walljumped you headstomped. Jump in roundhouse and jump in lk -> SPD are better unless you need to get out of the corner. It’s great because the crossups are ambiguous.
[*]Work on your cr.fp juggles.
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Seriously, combo execution is huge for Seth, because if you fuck up once, you probably lose at least half your healthbar.
Yeah, can’t really seem to execute the combos onlines since I tend to rely more in visual and audio cues to do so, with lag involved they don’t work most of the time, in practice and against CPU I get them pretty consistent thought still not 100%. But thanks for the other tips.
Greath match of seth by sabin.
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If anyone that can record vids is on XBL please add me and post my G1 replays up on youtube…I want some feedback XP
Dunno if this has been posted before, but it’s pretty fun to watch:
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lmfao the ending was classic:rofl:
WHY DOES HE THROW OUT FULL ANTI AIR SHORYUKENS?
AAAAAHHHHHH!!!
Needs some lp shoryukens > head stomps!
Obviously you’ve never had your lp shoryu trade with a jump-in. LP shoryu -> stomps is good versus certain jump-ins at certain distances, especially if you throw it out early, but I’d rather do a deep FP shoryu versus characters like Zangief and Blanka. Sometimes I’ll even do an EX shoryu as anti-air just to make sure I don’t trade, because Seth can’t afford that. Guile’s jump in hk is pretty good.
Versus Chun and Dictator, you can usually do mp shoryu -> stomps because they have such high jumps. This is much better because of the better invincibility.
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“Obviously” you haven’t watched the first ROUND of that video.
Okay, I got confused about what video you were quoting. I thought it was the Evo 5 on 5 video. The point still stands that lp shoryu has shitty priority as anti-air, and Rufus and Akuma both have jump-ins that will trade with it unless it’s done early - and you can’t afford to trade with it. So why don’t you stop telling Arturo how to play Seth?
I was able to record some matches with me playing as Seth. I decided to play with Seth instead of Zangief, and wanted some advice from anybody that could help me get better with Seth. This is just some casual fights I have had on G2. Two match ups I have problems with are M.Bison and Blanka if anyone has good tips for those.
G2 Vega vs Seth(me)
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G2 M. Bison vs Seth(me)
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G2 Ryu vs Seth(me)
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G2 C. Viper vs Seth(me)
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G2 El Fuerte vs Seth(me)
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G2 Dhalsim vs Seth(me)
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G2 Blanka vs Seth(me)
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G2 Sakura vs Seth(me)
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G2 Chun Li vs Seth(me)
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Well as for the Dictator matchup, i use jump back HP to counter his headstomps, as i find it much safer (but then again jump(back)HP is my main attack anyway =P)
VS Blanka you have to learn what’s punishable. blocked blanka horizontal roll = punishable by long arms, super and ultra. blocked rainbow roll = punishable by forwad jump headstomps+divekick, super (i think) and ultra. Vertical roll that misses ends up above your head so neutral jump headstomps+divekick. You had both ultra and super, and he did throw out quite a few rolls, so you had the opportunity to take that match.
All in all you have a Seth that would probably beat me in a mirror match (but then…i do despise mirror matches =) )
vs Blanka:
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[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=0m22s"[/media]You start off with jump back fp. Don’t do that vs. Blanka. Random up ball/blanka ball will own that shit.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=0m35s"[/media] You jump in at Blanka. Almost never jump in at Blanka unless you want to eat electricity or up ball.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=0m45s"[/media] you try to bait EX Blanka Ball with a standing jab. Don’t bother. Just throw a Sonic Boom. Unless they psychic a boom, you can just block and punish the Blanka Ball.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=0m50s"[/media] you try to catch a jump-out of your reset with j.mp. Just do cr.lk instead. Time it right and it will catch jumps, and you don’t look like a moron if it whiffs.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=1m27s"[/media] you do a scrub combo. Do cr.fp xx EX Tandem -> cr.fp xx lp shoryu -> headstomps instead.
[]Near the end of the round you miss a lot of chances to punish BB with ultra or even s.fp.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=1m52s"[/media] he whiffs an up ball and you don’t punish it with lp shoryu -> headstomps.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=1m56s"[/media] you try to mash something out to beat BB but you lose because it doesn’t come out. You should have blocked here if you were afraid of messing up, and then ultra’d.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m6s"[/media] you fail to punish another up ball
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m11s"[/media] you jump in at Blanka again. Any competent Blanka would have EX up ball’d here.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m18s"[/media] you beat BB with Sonic Boom. Don’t do that. It’s very inconsistent. Either shoryu, or just block and s.fp.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m30s"[/media] you do lp shoryu BnB instead of punishing with Seth’s super. His super does really good damage. Something simple like s.fp xx lp Sonic Boom xx super does like 400 damage.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m32s"[/media] you miss the dive kick for like the fifth time. It’s important to get the divekick with Seth, because it sets up his reset game. Practice it more. Make sure you hold down, and not down back or down forwards.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m36s"[/media] you should have supered to beat his ultra rather than take a risky jump over it.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m45s"[/media] You can punish Blanka Ball on hit with ultra or s.fp.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m47s"[/media] you teleport in. Don’t do that, like ever, unless you set it up with a Sonic Boom, do it on the opponent’s wakeup, or cancel a normal for a surprise crossup.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m52s"[/media] you should have gotten your ultra for free by throwing a lp Sonic Boom here. He can’t punish it with EX BB.
[][media=youtube]wZUvMAtAtR4&feature=channel#t=2m56s"[/media] for the second time this game you don’t hit-confirm Hyakuretsu. Off a jump-in, do cr.lk xx cr.lp xx cr.lp -> cr.mp. It lets you choose between hyakuretsu and sonic boom if they block or not. Don’t just cr.mk.
[*]At the end you ultra to catch Rainbow Roll, which obviously doesn’t work. Teleport away next time instead with forwards PP teleport.
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vs Dictator:
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[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m15s"[/media] you try to beat headstomp/devil’s reverse with jump forward mp. Don’t do that unless you’re sure it’s a headstomp. A properly timed reverse will beat it. Instead, do neutral j.fp.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m18s"[/media] you crossup with headstomp. Don’t do that, it’s punishable with s.hk. Use Seth’s great j.hk crossup.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m22s"[/media] you get hit by Psycho Crusher. As long as it’s not EX, just block and punish with shoryu, SPD, or backthrow.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m25s"[/media] you miss another divekick.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m29s"[/media] you get hit by another random psycho. j.hp usually beats it too, besides blocking.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m43s"[/media] you should beat headstomp with j.fp or at least teleport away.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m48s"[/media] you miss a headstomp.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=0m53s"[/media] reversal shoryu was a HORRIBLE idea here. Backwards teleport, EX SPD, or blocking would all have been better ideas. And was that a lp shoryu? Never use lp shoryu vs a grounded opponent, it trades vs a lot of random stuff.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=1m7s"[/media] Don’t throw out a headstomp every time you walljump out of the corner. It whiffed here, and you paid for it.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=1m17s"[/media] neutral j.fp, again.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=1m20s"[/media] another missed divekick
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=1m26s"[/media] Dash forward whiff EX Shoryu? What the hell?
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=1m30s"[/media] you get a great momentum going with headstomps -> SPD, and you don’t follow it up on his wakeup? Cross the bitch up! That’s how you beat dictator: You don’t let him go on offense. His defense sucks. I mean, if you had followed up here, you might have gotten a stun.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=1m50s"[/media] nice ultra punish.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=2m22s"[/media] you can punish a teleport towards you with back throw, easy.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=2m22s"[/media] you didn’t hit-confirm your Hyakuretsu here again. You should do a Sonic Boom if they block here. You have enough time to hit-confirm.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=2m33s"[/media] you can’t double shoryu with Seth. Do shoryu FADC neutral jump headstomp -> divekick.
[][media=youtube]NOvM4P38ojM&feature=channel#t=2m37s"[/media] you missed cr.mk xx Hyakuretsu
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Note that I usually offer more positive advice, but giving negative points is easier and I already spent to goddamn long on this. You know the combos, but you need to learn just how ridiculously good j.fp is, how to do Seth’s mixups and blockstrings, and how to be consistent with your combos. You also need to learn how to reversal back teleport, EX SPD, and wakeup block. Don’t panic and hold up back the whole round. Also, be more patient on offense. Throw more fp Sonic Booms. Don’t jump in so much. Learn how to scare an opponent with random s.fp. You gotta be better at Seth’s fireball trap, because it’s really good. Seth’s ultra becomes basically free in a fireball trap.
I appreciate the time you spent on this and you’re really helpful on the Seth subforum, but i think he can see for himself that for example he missed a divekick?
Personally i would have skipped the second by second review and stuck with the end:
Can’t recommend doing a blockstring into sonic boom, especially against dictator. With your crappy recovery he can EX scissors or worse probably ultra.