Seth-in-depth Match-up Thread

The best way to avoid super when trying to get an SRK is to use the :df::d::df: shortcut.

Yeah, i wouldn’t advise using normal srk with seth anyways, because he has a slower start up than most cast, so shortcut srk is alot better. And if you have trouble with srk x3 just go in training mode and do the second srk as late as possible, or just do shortcut.

5 frame DP is pretty standard (and good) in SSF4, the 3 shotos are just a major exception.

End your motion with down-forward and you’ll be fine. The motion Kikuichimonji mentioned eliminates the chance of a super coming out because of the lack of a forward input. Just don’t get used to the shortcut motion if you play other fighting games

Really because I thought a lot of people had 3 fram reversals.

I think Ryu and Akuma’s SRK are 3 frame reversals, and I believe Ken Fierce SRK is a 3 frame reversal as well.

All other DP-like characters have 4 frames (Dan, Guile and Dee jay for example) and 5 frames (Sagat and Seth).

To be honest 5 frame DP is still godlike.

What about cummy and fei?

Cammy and Fei-Long have 5 frame DPs also.
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5 frames is the middle ground for DPs and DP like moves. Unless you’re worried about safe jumps, the startup of a DP isn’t that important compared to the amount of invincibility and the hitbox. Seth’s SRK is the best non EX DP in the game for hitting deep and Cammy’s is the best for hitting high opponents.

hey, i’m a bison player and i’m planning to go to a tournament here in cali soon. i’m trying to identify the options every character can use to shut down the EX Psychocrusher as a getaway option on bison’s wakeup. For example, after the knockdown, ryu has jump in OS DP, chun li can downforward roundhouse and kick from behind, and she also has an OS c.hk or s.hk upon jump in.

What are seth’s options to beat this escape option? If you are extra generous, please let me know how you option select/straight up beat EX Devil’s reverse and teleport as well :slight_smile: thanks in advance!

Seth can os like ryu so if you do devils reverse Seth can os dp into headstomps and dive kick for his resets and teleport may or may not be safe against os legs.

A keen Seth can also use Ultra 1 or Super to punish any and all of your escape attempts. Your teleport can’t be OSed with legs, but they can be punished on reaction, especially if the Seth expects them.

Oh yeah, forgot about super and ultra. S.f.hp will hit teleport also.

Also, I’m moving to Philly today. Are any of you in Philly?

Alaska to Philadelphia huh? That’s a pretty far move. Are you military?

so how can i shortcut mp into super during a long ass combo?? i can get it to come out but if the srk shortcut will make me srk more often than super… whats the command for mp into super??? any shortcut for that?

thanks you guys. if you don’t mind, i’ll post your advice up in the bison forums and credit you guys properly. hopefully this will up the level of our games :slight_smile:

Naw not military but my dad just opened some cell phone stores so I’m going to work for him. Why use c.mp is the first place? You can do combos with 4 bars and end up with more damage and possible wall combos or resets.

Just do the input faster. You can buffer down then down-forward before the crouching strong then finish the motion with a qcf.

any thing u can u do against st.mk of bison when in corner??..cant really escape with wall jump…st hk gets me…
for now am focusing the st.mk and then dash in spd…but…i need other options against his stand mk…

Forward jump when he gets too close using stomps if necessary, land a lucky sweep, sonic boom FADC or random SRK are the first things that come to mind.

Don’t panic so much when you’re in the corner. If you’re being panicky, Bison can easily hit you out of obvious jump attempts.