I… I regret asking, nevermind.
According to Peter, higher-ups pressuring Mike Z is bullshit. And I, too, remember Mike Z saying HK Hornet Bomber was never meant to be invincible and during The Mixup’s patch walkthrough, he also said j.HP’s hitstun being 37 frames was a mistake. I guess the only thing he didn’t want to change was the untechable knockdown and it was NOT because of outside pressure other than the playerbase.
LOL @ all the people saying they’re going to drop Double now because they can’t Hurr Durr Butt Dive with her anymore. Go on, drop her for Parasoul. I’ll snap your princess in and kill her because you never learned how to play her just like you never learned Double. /annoyance
feels somewhat better now
The buck’s gotta stop… somewhere.
The funny thing is that Hurr Durr Butt Dive will still work.
I applaud to this nerf.
After a while it gets boring playing people online who just use that team because they’re too lazy to actually fight.
Sorry, I meant Hurr Durr HK Butt Dive.
I can’t say much about patching games this early, but the game seemed like it had some pretty glaring issues. ToDs started to get quite a bit more commonplace, and the Double assist was proving its stupidity. I can’t say I hate a game that will be reset based. At least that type of game has a ton more room to evolve, and lets player ingenuity thrive. There really isn’t much creativity left combowise if everything revolves around ToDs.
Butt dive isn’t so much of the problem. The more I play this the more I realize that hard knockdown anti airs that lead to full combos are a bigger issue than the butt bump itself. You kinda pick an anti air that will lead to OTG combo and everybody kinda rushes down again. Although if you are Peacock you get to zone and then do OTG combos. Don’t know how much this will play out in full tournaments but eh it kinda looks like it is the way to go for a lot of characters.
Even this isn’t really a problem. I don’t know how the fuck to play this game yet. More people should admit that they don’t know either.
Let’s not pretend that those weren’t hype in MvC2 or MvC3. People love infinites and ToDs too. It’s just boring to watch if they become braindead easy.
Are you talking about me? You had better not be talking about me cuz I’ll whoop you.
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This is my roundabout way of looking for some good fights if you are interested
My only issue with HK Buttslam is that its pretty mindless. Unlike Napalm Pillar which is extremely punishable and easy to dodge, Buttslam hits fullscreen, out-prioritizes every assist in the game no matter where they’re placed on screen, and while it’s usually fairly easy to dodge it’s super hard to get a real punish on it because it ends up the entire screen away and they can just throw a projectile and stop you, especially if it’s Peacock using Double. Against Pillar you can get either a happy birthday or some free damage on Parasoul while pressuring or mixing up the point character.
Also it’s insanely easy to convert off of, so I’m a huge fan of changing it to a soft-knockdown. I do think that more assists should be soft-knockdown, but that would mean making Napalm Pillar different as an assist than when used on point, and I don’t think anyone’s in a hurry to start doing stuff like that.
Edit: I’m not complaining about how it is right now, I’m just saying it’s more interesting to not have it as an option, because it’s way too appealing of one imo.
Wow… I thought for sure all the sensible people would have stopped posting here by now, leaving it with, like, two people stewing in their own frustration juice.
Yes they do. The two totalbiscuit videos posted earlier goes into this in great detail. Watch them.
Mvc2 is ToD, lk lk psylocke infinite hailstorm kills pretty much every character. Lol i’m pretty knowledgeable about that game since iv’e played it for like 11 years.
I’ve been putting Double in the back of my team and yeah its really good.
I feel like the hard knockdown should stay though and get rid of the invincibility, it just felt better than all of the other assists. Regardless, changes or not I love this game, and all the other changes were spot on with this being the only controversial one. So good shit to the people involved.
He’s still playing with it, it has otg back but bounces who it hit lower.
Watching Ultrachen TV
Peacock’s teleport, it’s the same number of frames. More recovery but starts up sooner. Fake teleport unchanged.
QCF+HP currently was bugged, she doing a special meter for each shot. It’s been fixed so each shot does a 3rd.
Bella’s heavy do 25-75 less damage.
DP+Throw/360 OS is fixed.
Let’s analyze this for the 500th time on SRK: The top for characters in the game were, in order, Sentinel, Storm, Magneto and Cable.
Sentinel had a TOD with a couple of bars of meter.
Storm has no TOD except on Sentinel with her infinite. She has no other practical infinite for competition. With 2 bars she can DHC into Sentinel for an assload of damage.
Magneto can technically TOD except it is a long and tedious process. Magneto relies on resets because it kills faster and it is better than tapdancing on somebody for 3 minutes. Resets are not guaranteed but his is close to a 5 way mixup.
Cable only has a TOD with a fuckload of meter.
Conclusion: you are fucking dumb, I am the best.
Underground edit done before actually posting: Iron Man has is the only person that has a consistent TOD. Iron Man, on the other hand, is lacking as a character. In other words, the character with the reliable TOD into guard break for another TOD did not have enough tools to be God Tier.
Similarly Mike Z ran a team that was all TOD’s all the time. This team was Team Z, you probably haven’t heard of it because you post like an idiot. The Team Z videos are still fucking amazing. The great thing about team Z is that he took it to evo and bodied the shit out of somebody one game. He then proceeded to lose that set. So…TOD’s get you more or less jack and nowhere in MvC2.
Real conclusion: I am da best and there should be a character named after me because soy el mejor.
What game were you playing for 11 years? Cause it sure as shit wasn’t mvc2.
omg that Valentine thing he almost showed off that is fixed is cheap as shit