Seimitsu ls-32?

Just a quick question on installing a Seimitsu ls-32 into either a madcatz TE (round 2) and a qanba Q2 standard arcade stick. Thinking of trying one once FA gets back up and running and was just curious if there’s anything I should know about the actual installation, mainly the wiring harness. Are they just plug n’ play with all the wires matching up? Or will I need to swap some of the leads around on the pcb for this. I’ve looked on youtube and any installation vids I found all had to do with the mounting plates, but nothing really touched on the wiring aspect, and when doing an “ls-32” search here on the forums it was pages of “on sale” threads.

I guess my only question regarding the actual lever that I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere i how much “waggle” does the stick have in neutral? One of the things that I didn’t like at all about the crown 303fk was when it was in a neutral position you could shake the thing and it would wiggle back and forth quite a bit before it made any contact with the switches while my JLF was pretty “solid” in that position. How does the LS-32 hold up in this regard?

Thanks in advance.

Do you mean the LS-32 or the LS-32-01? Because the LS-32 is the model that uses individual microswitches sort of like how the Korean sticks have them, whereas the LS-32-01 has the microswitches soldered onto a PCB, sort of like on a Sanwa JLF. They’re both the same joystick, it’s just you have a choice as to whether you want a PCB or individual microswitches.

Either way, it should be straightforward to wire up. The LS-32-01 can use the same wiring harness that’s already installed into your Mad Catz TE as long as the PCB’s pins are facing the same way as the JLF’s were. The LS-32 will require a conversion harness, but if you know how to wire up a Crown 303-FK, you should have no problems wiring up an LS-32 with the harness.

To mount an LS-32-01, you’ll have to do a bit more work than you would with a Sanwa JLF. Because parts of the LS-32-01 like the restrictor gates and the PCB block the mounting plate’s holes, you’ll need to take it apart partially in order to mount it. It’s not difficult, it just takes a little more time compared to a JLF. It’s fairly straightforward too, since you’re unscrewing stuff layer by layer.

Every stick has some deadzone in it, and the LS-32 is no exception. However, you definitely won’t get anywhere near as much deadzone as you have in a Crown stick. The deadzone’s comparable to that of the JLF, maybe slightly less. If you’re okay with the deadzone in a JLF, you’ll be fine with an LS-32.

I had an LS-32 installed in my HRAP2SA for a few years before I decided to return it to stock, and I think it’s a really great joystick. The LS-32 is a well balanced stick that is great for both fighting games and SHMUPs. It’s got Matsushita microswitches and uses high quality plastic for its construction, so it won’t feel cheap; it feels just as high quality as a JLF.

I only have a handful of gripes about the LS-32, and of these, only one of them has any validity as a complaint. The rest are just my personal opinion.

  • I don’t like the fact that it doesn’t have options for a shaft cover, and although it has a protective coating on the shaft, I’d rather have a shaft cover to save myself from rust. You can however mod a Sanwa JLF shaft cover to fit over an LS-32 shaft relatively easily though, so that’s a simple option.
  • The dark blue sub-gate is something I personally never liked the feel of while it is in place. This is easily remedied by simply removing it and using just the light blue main gate.
  • There’s a known quirk of the LS-32 where if you push a lever all the way to a side, you will feel the stick “jump” a little bit. I want to say it’s due to the actuator of the LS-32, but I’m no expert. Either way, this “jump” is something that I only noticed if I paid close attention to it. In the heat of a match or when I was concentrating on dodging bullets, I didn’t notice it at all. Mileage varies from person to person though; some people are really bothered by it, some people could care less. I will say as an addendum that a joystick “jumping” when it reaches the edge of its throw isn’t something unique to the LS-32. Even the Sanwa JLF, which people consider to have a higher build quality, has this problem, though it is far less obvious compared to the LS-32 and is something you really have to hunt for.

Anyways, that was my two cents on the LS-32. It’s a really really great joystick, and it’s something that everyone should at least give an honest try.

EDIT: I made a small vocabulary error in my previous post. I mixed up “actuator” and “pivot”, so my post has been edited to reflect. The actuator on the LS-32 is fine; it’s the pivot which is the source of the jumping issue.

Thank you! That was extremely informative and you managed to answer all my queries :slight_smile:

FA is down at the moment so I’m not sure which model they are offering but i’m pretty sure it’s the -01. I had also read about the “pop-up” issue on these but I’m not the type who rides my gates so it shouldn’t be too much of an issue. When I got my Crown stick I gave the JLF I replaced as well as 6 sanwa buttons to my buddy who just got into fighters and bought a Brawlstick so he could have decent parts in there. As I had issue with my Crown I was going to order a new JLF anyways but figured I might give the Seimitsu a try being it’s my 2nd stick and I still have my custom TE to fall back on if I end up not preferring it.

Paradise Arcade has tons of Seimitsu stuff and certainly has LS-32. Personally though I would recommend a LS-40, if you can get it mounted correctly (you will need a S plate) it feels really nice, it does not have the pivot issue since the pivot has a much better design. It’s also a sturdy stick as well.

from what hibachi told me most seimitus have a little more wiggle because of the pivot vs. jlf. i like the ls 56 but you need to be very precise for that stick especially with the octo gate. but its very nice with low dead zone and quick activation

the ‘wiggle room’ in most seimitsu joysticks is negligible and should not be a cause for concern.

There wiggle room? I never noticed.

I own two LS-32-01s, and based on this admittedly small sampling I would say that the manufacturing is less consistent than it is with the JLF.

My first LS-32, which is new old stock, if you will, feels very nice and has a fairly small deadzone (I’d disagree with Ikagi about the deadzone, actually, the JLF is much smaller imo).

My second, which is recently manufactured, has a fairly large deadzone (nothing like the Crown, mind) and has a small amount of grinding. This might go away after some use, however.

If you get a good one, you won’t be disappointed. The waggle is nothing like the FK, the diagonals are much easier to hit, and it just feels like a higher quality device.

i would say “feels like a higher quality device” is speculative. i love ls 56s but i personally feel like some seimitsus sound and feel hollow and cheap. to each their own

No, compared to the FK I’d sat it’s pretty objective.

Sorry yeah, I didn’t see that. FKs are shit. jlf\ls32\40\56 is subjective =)