Best Thread Ever!
Well I guess maybe I was trying to say that, but of course it doesn’t apply to you. If you were smarter you would know that the word you were looking for was “you’re”. Anyways, before this gets digressed to 2nd grade english…
One of the things I like about mvc2:
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The reaction speed: When rushing someone down or being rush, several skills are needed. One of the most needed is reaction speed. There are several angles that an opponent can hit you from. At will a player can hit from high left, bottom left, high right, and bottom right. And the difference between the four is less than a second. I know when I see a magneto rushing towards me and I have no assist to defend me, or I know he is fortified by a storm assist my brain kinda tenses up. Like how spider-man reacts when he senses danger… I know thats a nerdy allegory but its pretty spot on. Basically for the next few seconds my mind is going crazy and I’m focusing like crazy to try my best to react to my opponents actions. That tense focus isn’t required when playing any other game (besides iidx) that I’ve experienced. It’s only required because of the intense rush-down from storm, magneto and sentinel.
When I’m rushing someone down, my brain goes into a different kind of focus, and my reaction is still required. As I’m dashing into an opponent I realize (hmm he might be calling an assist right now) so I choose actions assuming he has done so. I begin rushing and mixing up my attacks, hoping to break through my opponent’s defense. If I see him crouch, I tri-dash or dash over his head and try to hit other side. If he normal jumps I’m prepared and go for a guard break. If he’s standing I go low. Once attack I’m constantly watching whether he calls an assist or not. If I know my block string is strong enough, I go for two mixups. I have to constantly be aware that a push block can come at any time at which case I have a few frames (varies depending who pushblocks) to get back in there before this character gets to regroup and respace me. As I’m rushing in after a push block I’m having to be prepared for a super jump so I normally do a preemptive super jump to stop them from escaping if they do. As I’m hitting the air I’m having to be prepared to short or square-dash short if they did jump depending on spacing to try to put them back in the defensive grounded situation. All of this can occur is less than 4 seconds. This is one of the main reasons I love marvel. I can elaborate on the defensive situation but meh… anyways with a high tier match this is possible, no low tier gives that same situation. I don’t play marvel to get into some crazy thought out attack. I play marvel for the intense rush down be it defensive or offensive. If I wanted to play a thinking man’s game I would play chess (which I do on my off time and am very good at).
If you wanna whine cuz top-tiers give this intense rush go play tekken…oh wait you do. What is ur complaint in that game? I play that as well and it sucks balls. Switch to 3s… I play that as well and it sucks balls when it comes to that rush focus feeling one gets in a rush down or getting rushed down situation. So I refuse to have a battle of patience with a scrubby opponent would be a more befitting sig regarding this topic.
LOL soo true :looney::looney::looney:
Very good point. If you can’t take the heat… My Magneto is low tier at best. But,when I am facing his offense, I know at this point, my reaction time is horrible. But, every time I successfully block a dash over/under, cross up etc, I feel real good about it. Why? Because it is making me stronger. Fighting Mags tests your reflexes. Block him, and most everything else is a cakewalk.
just play xvsf, and stop bitchin
Mag-f^^kng-neto!!!
There’s already a ton of slow and tactical games out there, why not play those and test you’re smart/intelligent/tactical skills out there.
Nah it’s not about that, it’s like when Sanford is up against a Magneto player he just doesn’t even try. He thinks he lost before the match even starts.
Not only Sanford, include Potter on that too…
Cool so bring MAGNETO to a first to ten vs me then… ill be in the HOOD tomo bring the CASH I got my end.
Fanatiq-Im done talking about this man i guess Im just weak to mag players
Very good post. I have to agree with the work put into actually rushing down. Its alot of work but having the execution to pull off non-stop movement and be able to react accordingly is the exciting part about marvel.
If you dont have good execution, get it. If you cant get it, play something else.
PS: Iron guy is the cheapest fuck in marvel, fuck magnus!!
Magneto this and magneto that - Just play the game and stop complaining! Here’s a thought for ya - figure out a way to make it easier( is there such a thing?) for you to block magneto’s crossups and have a sure fire way to tech his throws when he attempts them. What is he going to do to you then? Chip you to death?
Magneto is a pain in the ass because everyone will make some sort of mistake against him - however - once you, me, or someone else figures out how to totally block his moves and tech his throws then he’s nothing more but a character who won’t be able to do anything to you.
All this magneto talk makes me want to play and kill all magnus players!
Duc
Oh BTW - Good stuff too all the placers - heard seasons beatings was a blast - would have been nice to see the whole thing in person though.
Its funny looking at this thread. All the top players arguina amongst each other. Fanatiq using words like juxtaposition. Demon Hyo saying he was done like 5 times and coming back to write parragraphs of info. Its funny how people act like there is no defined way to know if someone is better than someone else. If there isn’t then how in the world do all of us wannabe top tiers know the tier level? justin, yipes, sanford can beat each other on any given day. Unless Justin has a string in his mouth or picks Sent/Storm/Psy. 2nd tier is Demon,JMar, Row, Chris 3rd is people like Nelson, Fanatiq, etc
You know who you are and where you rank. Just like any sport or game its whoever has been the most consistent. The Buffalo Bills went to the superbowl 4 times in a row. And lost everytime. But they were still one of the best. Anyone can look at CONSISTENT tournament results and FT10 MMs to determine who is better. there is no complex rule set when determining the best. If someone wants to write some code for a program that takes results and wins from across the country and converts them into ranking then be my guest. SB3 was the hardest tourney out there. There were just no guarantees.
Complaining about a character like Mags is ridiculous too. He’s in the game. Block. I’m just tryin to come up and get some solid Marvel skills. I play mags but i try to play Storm/Sent too. At the end of the day Marvel is a game. Step up and win or go home and complain. Know it sounds ridiculous to us lower players trying to come up.
^I like this Post Godfather…KILL ALL MAGNUS PLAYERS
You cant block randomness or stuff that you don’t know is comming. Lets say you know the person you’re playing has magneto and you know that person only knows 3 crossups. How you going to know which one he’s going to pull out? Its the same thing at the start of the match, its a dice roll picking which switch trick to open with. Only 1 is the right answer but you don’t know which it is. Thats why magneto is a beast, hes unpredictable and fast for the human eye/reaction time. People only block some/most of his stuff cuz they are used to the same old mixup game. Thats why yipes beasts, cuz he brings new shit to the table. Remember that video magnetro made with the programmable pad? Sure thats stuff not really possible by humans, but some of it is. You’re trying to say you’ll block all that lol.
p.s.
game is broken with sentinal in it =P dude is too imba
Jwong, Yipes, Sanford , Crizzle, Chris Schmidt, and SooMighty bring new shit to the table with the big 4.
I completely understand Ducvader’s post because it is true. Most of the magneto players out there whom are NEW and UP AND COMING use the same patterns with mag because they feel comfortable executing that type of style regardless of being advanced and safe.
Think about it. When you realize what you’re getting hit by most of the time, it comes to mind that you gotta figure out how to counter it. A LOT OF PEOPLE LET THEIR MINDS SLIP AND OF COURSE IT HAPPENS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO SCARED TO FAIL AN ATTEMPT THAT CAN OUTSMART THE OTHER OPPONENT.
So I’m doing what Ducvader has just stated.
- Figure out magneto’s priorities and how to counter them.
- Figure out 100% combos to kill him.
- Outline some smart tactics to lame magneto the fuck out.
- Finally, counter magneto’s mashing short and kill him at all costs.
Can’t wait for EVO next year. I’ll show magneto whats up with the robot.
Cuz why? Cuz i am the stompinator.
peace
i see alot of scrambled eggs between the eggs
Lmao, wuddup Soo?
“There’s always rain before a rainbow”
Here in Michigan, I just have Magnetos blocking knives all day… Spiral is still alive!
wow. I just read this thread. This shit is hilarious! I am about to clear the air once and for all about magneto, and magneto players.
First of all, before I start, I just want to comment on some things fanatiq said. You have some good points about 2 out of 3 vs. first to 10. I have been telling people that for years. I started first to 10 on the EC to show who the better player is. Magneto is bullshit. The reason you were able to beat Erik that way was because of magneto. REAL TALK. You would not stand a chance against Erik with out him. You NEED his bullshit priority, bullshit speed, bullshit guardbreaks. The other characters are at his mercy. It takes TEAMS to counter magneto not characters. TEAMS!!! Deep down inside, magneto players play magneto in high hopes to get a hit(whether it be random or strategic)and put the other player in predicaments where they can’t do anything. Chris S does not stand a chance against Sanford kelly without magneto. Its not because Sanford is weak to the character. The reason Chris S lost to me in the tourny was because he did not pick MAGNUS! I am not saying it was a guaranteed win but its just weird how after he lost he picked magnus on everyone else and wound up winning the tourny.(heh, go figure). Now for counter arguements, sent cap can kill u in 2 combos. Storm sent DHC can wipe out any character. Well sent does not have that overwhelming priority where he can short a character clean out of any situation like magnus can. He does not get double snapback rewards the same either. Storm sent can wipe out a character easy yea, but not a whole TEAM!!! mag hits u your next characters get guardbroken and ya done!!! Just watch battle of the strongest match 16. TEXTBOOK!!! If u are playing someone that u know is better than u, just pick magnus and that will def close the gap. There is no arguement here. If u are out there disagreeing with this post then chances are u are a magneto player. So I challenge u to go a whole tourny or first to 10 against a worthy opponent without magnus. Walk a mile in the other person’s shoes. I have walked in the shoes of a magnus player. I HATE magnus, but he gets your bullshit results. Example 2: I have been a matrix player since I started this game. I played row in sb3. First game I got fucked up. I picked mag the next and made him look like a SCRUB!! I take NO credit for that. That was all magneto. All of a sudden I was on top of the world. I could do no wrong. 90% of the marvel players are considered “TOP PLAYERS” because they are mag players. I only respect the games of the titans and a few others. (silly voice)“but yipes is a titan and he is a mag player and he is just as scrubby as anyone of the other mag players.” Yea well while this is true, he still proved his worth with the other characters. The on the low first to 10 with Chris S where Yipes won 10-1 with team matrix. Yipes OWNED chunk 100-12 with team matrix. If u know u can’t really beat good people without magnus then your game is not respectable. But heh, what do I know. Its all just and opinion anyway.
marvel fucking sucks.
Period