Scrubquotes is back!

[Little_Goten]

I’m more concerned that your first reaction was to post there and not share here. I mean, it’s ScrubFistIV, we all no no amount of sense can be drilled into that thick skull of his.

SRK was down around the time that thread was made.

so sad that we have noob characters like Chun Li in this game and people who play them and manage to win feels like good players lol

Gief is also another scrub character but requires some skill to play with…

Chun Li , on the other side, requires none…

When i was 8 years old , back in 1994 i used to pick only Chun Li because was the only character I was able to play with

later i realized i was a total Chun Li scrub so i moved to harder characters, my hardest being R.Mika, but i do also enjoy C.Viper and Makoto

Dhalsim too is one of my favorites, but i do recognize he is extremely easy to use

Blanka is another one…

what is the noob/scrub friendly characters in your opinions???

1 - Chun Li (favorite scrub choice, they cant use well other characters , they pick Chun Li because its the easy one to handle , and sometimes means win with minimal efforts with her EX legs…)

2. Zangief (requires skill at high level, but is extremely cheap, at low and high level, max result with minimal efforts)

3. Blanka (annoying and easy…)

4. Ryu/Ken/Akuma (most newbies choose these, as theyre easy and popular…)

5. Dhalsim (he is easy to master, doesnt require much skill, but you need to think faster to use him)

What are your opinions?

These scrub-friendly/beginner characters should be weaker because they are easy to learn and use and the learning curve is short

I feel SF series doesnt reward the player efforts, since the low/mid level Chun Li player is able to play against and defeat the high/master level C.Viper due to her difficult

I mean…Chun Li is extremely easy execution, while Viper requires lots of practice and still is hard to not commit mistakes and play perfectly always

Chun Li gameplay is limited to the point YOU SIMPLY DONT DO THINGS WRONG because her gameplay is extremely simple…

i dont think that is fair and the game doesnt reward the player efforts into learning a character…

why bother in learn harder characters if you are able to play well with the beginner ones???

ok so if you think Im wrong, just check what defeats Gief Body Splash at short distance in the game, almost nothing, very few moves, and some characters have to time it perfectly to defeat it

same for Chun Li crouching roundhouse, almost nothing can beat its priority at short distance, my character can do it but at long range…at medium range it trades damage, but at close, nothing!!!

RIDICULOUS

Unbalanced??? Extremely, considering how easy is to use Chun and Gief

and Gief was harder in other SF games, now command throws are the easiest thing on earth…

those being ironic are probably scrub character players so…NVM them

they want to keep having matches with minimal efforts using these characters and will be Chun Li/Gief/Sim/Blanka scrubs forever

exactly, you got my point…the others making fun are probably newbiew-friednly character players who think theyre playing at “PRO” level with their limited, but efficient gameplay

about Zangief, once he gets close he can deal tons of damage in no time, so his only difficult is get closer…

I can confirm 100%sure its wayy harder for the Guile player to keep him away guessing every move , than for Gief to wait and come jumping over the screen and deal a massive damage once he gets close…

lol what expect from chun li players???

that kind of answer

Chun Li scrubs will always says she demands skill !!! even knowing she doesnt!!!

when i said im giving up?? LOL

I never get defeat by a Scrub Li because while theyre doing their scrub thing, i have thousands of harder techniques at my hands to dispose of them, because i choose to play my games the hard way: picking characters that offers a diverse gameplay

my goal is not win easy, but surpass limits, thats why i never choose Scrub Li and i dont respect Chun Li players simply for the fact , they play something that gives them the advantage of EXTREME EASY EXECUTION and will suck with any other characters that offers moderate/advanced learning curve

Scrub Li is for people without skills or as Capcom intented: Chun Li is a character made for beginners,

once they learn the basics with Chun Li, Ryu and others, they should move to advanced fighters like Viper

As my thread said, my opinion is these NOVICE characters should NOT be competitive at HIGH LVL of gameplay, they should sitcky where they belong: to the new players and at low level gameplay for the people who is learning the game

and NOT being able to compete with characters that requires high level of skill

As I said , the game doesnt rewards skill and effort because we have in the roster EASY/SIMPLE characters that can fight well with minimal efforts like SCRUB LI

Anyways, High level gameplay of SCRUB LI is 10 times easier in execution than high level Viper, or Makoto, and others…that is what im trying to say

Capcom needs to learn that NOVICE people wont be novice forever…and make a game balanced to rewards skill and effort instead of the lazy ones who sticky forever with the characters made for BEGINNERS

again, I DO NOT RESPECT CHUN LI PLAYERS because they DO NOT HAVE SKILL, even if they play that EASY character well, theyre not in the same level as VIPER players and will never be, unless they choose a character that requires precise execution, mind games and skill

The others were funny, but this one pisses me the fuck off.

At Southern Impact in Laredo, TX, we met a talented SSF4 Chun-Li player named Mike Begum (aka “Broly” or “Legs”) who has a condition called arthrogryposis. Despite his circumstances, he became one of the top Chun-Li players in Texas after playing the game for just 6 months, and is also one of the best Super Smash Bros. players in the state. In this interview with Gootecks, Broly talks about how** he plays without using his hands**, why and how he uses Chun-Li, and his advice for others in similar situations.

BIG LOL…6 months lol… in these conditions … SMASH BROS???

lol everything is explained, I CANT MAKE IT MORE CLEAR THAN THIS

THIS is PROOF of everything i said, and im not whinning, im saying the game doesnt rewards skill and efforts,

one question:

Do you think this Brolly guy would be able to play competitive with other character than Chun Li???

Why he is not playing Rose or Gen instead??? ahhh too hard maybe? cant spam jumping kicks and crouch block all the time???

He choose Chun Li because he was not able to control another character…

to make it clear I admire him for having fun with the game and having fun in life the way he can,

my critics are torwards Capcom who prefer to keep an extremely easy character like Scrub Li into the competitive scene , and she was top tier in all games she appeared after SF2:

supreme top tier in A2 with cheap gameplay…

nerfed a lot in A3 but still high tier with a very cheap cr.roundhouse that got nerfed in A3 UPPER

Godly tier in 3rd Strike and ruined the game…because it was fine before she appeared in it…

Top tier again in SSFIV

will receive only buffs in AE 2012, for more cheap gameplay

and im not into the crossover series, but im almost sure she was top tier in CVS2, and Tatsunoko Vs Capcom

Simply RIDICULOUS

Broly and I both have handicaps that make playing the game more difficult than it should be, and he’s using him as an example as to why Chun is “easy mode”. What the flying fuck??

All this and more from this thread: http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/go/thread/view/7411/28236637/Characters_for_beginners_should_be_the_weakest!!!&post_num=1#505938519

[Vorkosigan]

Jonathan Holmes sounds like the biggest low tier hero ever

[Keres]

Wow, that guy talking about Broly needs to shut the fuck up. What a gigantic douchebag.

[Zebster]

Ban the fool.

[NissanZaxima]

Lol there isn’t a more annoying type of player than the “proud to be playing low tier” players. When they lose they use their character as an excuse, or blame the other person for tier whoring. Of course they will talk your ear off about all their shitty mains in every game and how hard (yet rewarding though :tup:) their characters are to play compared to the higher tiers. Then they will say some stupid shit about how they dont respect people who pick high tiers and :blah::blah::blah:

I wish they would all just shut the hell up… because no one cares.

[Hawkingbird]

The attack against Broly is uncalled for. Thread should be closed after that stupid shit

[NissanZaxima]

Yea that guy who was talking about Broly can swallow acid as far as im concerned.

[Hitaro0]

I’m scrub? lol

check one of my older matches against a SCRUB LI , but in street fighter alpha 3, which is a way superior game , technically speaking

and my character in this game is Rainbow Mika, she is listed as a bottom to low mid tier at best, while Chun Li is weaker in this game than the previous SF, but she is still a high tier character

for the video, you can see how technical is my game involving mind games, kara throws while his game is all about block and spam kicks

btw, Rainbow Mika is perhaps the hardest character to use in the series, reason she isnt popular …

and here Im talking how harder characters are underestimated and forgotton because newbies have easy ones like Chun Li to select

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It’s incredibly hard to tell if he’s serious or trolling.

[Little_Goten]

So what about all these Scrub-Li’s saying she is technically hard to use just to valorize her character???

and I know what a Scrub is…is a player who plays the game and refuses to get better, what seem to be the case of most Chun Li players…they do their scrubish moves because its effective, and why get better if they can ALMOST win just doing easy stuff?

Its my gameplay video, and i use it here because it shows Chun Li cheap/easy gameplay compared to the technical level of Mika

and that is the same for all Chun appearances…extremely easy, basic gameplay, but efficient…and SFIV series offers a much simpler gameplay compared to the rest of the series…alpha 3 is the most complex sf game ever…and Chun Li is still cheap as hell

it also show the difference between the efforts i had to do with Mika (talking about execution) and his are minimal

and I dont have SSFIV matches recorded on YT played by ME, so i used this one

and if Mika ever gets added, she will be forgotten once again because nobody will care in put a lot of time to turn her competitive

Harder characters should be incentivated to be played in this series, and in my opinion these beginner characters like Chun Li should be kept where they belong = to the novice players, and not into the tournament scene

I’m scrub? lol

check one of my older matches against a SCRUB LI , but in street fighter alpha 3, which is a way superior game , technically speaking

and my character in this game is Rainbow Mika, she is listed as a bottom to low mid tier at best, while Chun Li is weaker in this game than the previous SF, but she is still a high tier character

for the video, you can see how technical is my game involving mind games, kara throws while his game is all about block and spam kicks

btw, Rainbow Mika is perhaps the hardest character to use in the series, reason she isnt popular …

and here Im talking how harder characters are underestimated and forgotton because newbies have easy ones like Chun Li to select

After this last comment, he posted a video of himself playing Alpha 3 . . . for some reason:

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[Hawkingbird]

How the fuck does Alpha 3 factor into his hate for Chun in SF4? He must just hate fighting her in any game she’s in

[jamal313]

good god those last few post made me 15 times stupider…why do people think excution= skill? so fuckin what you got execution and play viper. you anit winning evo bitch…no one gives a shit that you play low teirs that don’t make you special i don’t see EG singing him up or anything…and that shit bout broly was uncalled for dude worked his ass off to be that good with a handicap give the mofo props.

im mad.

[OSD]

I am just absolutely shocked about how stupid that guy is…
Funny how he completely ignored the guy explaining why chun isnt cheap or scrubby.

[fokkusuhaundo]

Complaining about getting beat by Chun in different iterations of SF but failing to bring up the one game where she is legitimately OP. :clown:

[PongBoom]

Complaining about getting beat by Chun in different iterations of SF but failing to bring up the one game where she is legitimately OP. :clown:

Because that one is a legitamitly hard game. Jks. But seriously

[Little_Goten]

its not a “****” Chun Li, he can do incredible things with her and is above the most Scrub Li’s ive seen

its also not a random video of alpha 3, ITS ME PLAYING R.MIKA

and im not crying because I cant defeat SCRUB LI’S , because I can, because i studied the matchup

the fact is most “scrubs” here are chun li players who want to play the game the EASY WAY

so they came attack me to deffend their EASY CHARACTER

SCRUB IS SOME1 WHO WANTS TO PLAY EASY AND REFUSE TO LEARN MORE BECAUSE THE WAY THEYRE DOING ITS OK = CHUN LI PLAYERS

also Alpha 3 is broken, so is SFIV series…

the advantage of ALPHA 3 is it is an old school 2d fighting game for the HARDCORE gamer

SSFIV got the gameplay simplified to appeal a generation that is used to play games with health recovery LOL

try to perform a 720 command in A3 and see its much more difficult than in SSFIV…

Chun Li players will never learn more because theyre used to the easy and the easy is fine for them…she doesnt offer any challenge and her gameplay is very limited, reason she is a character for BEGINNERS

ofc it is…they play that way and think they play awesome, so they think they dont really to learn other characters

i rarely seen a Scrub Li player taking a step forward and try to learn a harder character…they want easy gameplay

http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/go/thread/view/7411/28236637/Characters_for_beginners_should_be_the_weakest!!!&post_num=80#506073337

[d3v]

After this last comment, he posted a video of himself playing Alpha 3 . . . for some reason:

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What terrible play. He’s probably just salty that the Chun player did more damage with their CC than they did.

[CStatic]

I couldn’t see anything skillful in his playing at all. I cannot fathom this idiotic idea of martyrdom that this guy has just because he chose to play low tiers. Well congratu-fucking-lations, you chose a character you wanted to play, so did I. If his execution was so great, we’d have all heard a lot more about him beyond being a whiney little bitch on the net. Oh and way to egregiously insult a handicapped player in order to get your so-called point across.

[d3v]

I couldn’t see anything skillful in his playing at all. I cannot fathom this idiotic idea of martyrdom that this guy has just because he chose to play low tiers. Well congratu-fucking-lations, you chose a character you wanted to play, so did I. If his execution was so great, we’d have all heard a lot more about him beyond being a whiney little bitch on the net. Oh and way to egregiously insult a handicapped player in order to get your so-called point across.

Speaking of “low tier heroes,” there’s on on Seth’s old post on Dom101.

On Cheapness

A pure example of this is 3rd Strike. Its unbalanced. Using Chun/High Tier or Shotos in this game is being cheap simply bcuz they get too much reward for too little to no effort Vs using Low Tier and actually being able to win with ‘skill’ without being douchebag tier scrubs bcuz apparently honor doesnt exist in this realm but skill is 100 times more important anyways. That is what is defined as cheap. The mentality of “Oh I beat you and it doesnt matter how or what char. I used doesnt matter” issad, flawed and false. How can you even call yourself a good player or pro or elite if all you do is useeasy to win with chars. that get away with too much BS w/ cheap tactics that take little to no s-kill to perform? lol

Ive been playing 3S for 5-6yrs and I play HARD MODE AKA Low Tier, well I main Alex whose 14th place but I just started recently started 2nding Urien bcuz I was getting bored with Alex/Q for 2 1/2yrs straight - Urien which is not easy to use for obvious reasons for anyone thats ever tried to use him will know. Not only does it take skill and advanced knowledge of footsies/mind games/parrying(air & red too) to win but I also get this thing called RESPECT for NOT being a Tier Scrub and taking the easy way out bcuz Im proving to the world that Im not a scrub whereas they already did with their choice of char. and style of play proving absolutely nothing.

[CStatic]

You quoted me on that just because you like the idea of me smashing my face into a table didn’t you?

[d3v]

You quoted me on that just because you like the idea of me smashing my face into a table didn’t you?

Pics or GTFO. :razzy: