Scrub Quotes: Capcom Unity Balance Suggestions Edition!

Kimo’s a genius. This all according to his evil plan:

  1. Find a character that everyone thinks is crap but actually has a lot of untapped potential and main him/her.
  2. Suggest obscene buffs next update. Insist character is extremely disadvantaged and cite your pro experience as validity of your claims.
  3. Unleash hell on everyone at tournaments when update makes said character broken.

Yeah I disagreed with many of his buffs too. I felt like he wanted to fix everything that was wrong with Hakan. Unfortunately that would break the character. The overhead I thought was interesting and not overpowered.

Most buffs that were relevant were those related to oiling up: allowing EX oil to be cancelled into oil slide would be very good, for instance, also oil up fakeouts. Also making drykan’s command grabs not suck so much ass.

Making his ST.HP an overhead is problematic, cause it has 8f startup,most overheads have atleast the double amount of startup frames. Giving the HP more startup and make it an overhead will also nerf his AA ability,because it would be too slow then. Damn,its hard to write with a Iphone.
Do people remember the infinite oil shit and the SPD into U2?
Holy shit I was so shocked about this.

I think Kimo’s suggestions are proof positive that you can be a good player and not be a good judge of balance or game design.

One thing I thought was interesting is the “Make guard position hurtbox small enough to go under honda’s ex headbutt” which was echoed by a couple people. That suggestion would require a HUGE reduction in the size of his hurtbox and would make it the only move in the game that can low profile Honda’s headbutt AFAIK. Blanka can’t do it with his down PPP and Ibuki can’t slide under it and those are both extremely low to the ground.

The hurtbox height for Hakan is 0.15 in guard position. Blanka’s is 0.15 as well. Ibuki’s slide is 0.25.

Ever hear of a guy called Alioune? :smiley:

Alioune has some interesting ideas and a more firm grasp on the concept of balance but he just wants to turn SF4 into SF5. Still some of his suggestions I PERSONALLY think are bit out there but nothing that is outright misinformed. Alioune is a bit better at looking at the whole game rather than individual pieces than some top players.

Alioune had some really bad suggestions, I only say LK Scissor Kicks -3 on block.
Oh and do not forget Ryan Hart with his Angry Scar buff, opponent throws out sweep, Sagat does Angry Scar, since Scar has no recovery anymore, Sagat does raw Ultra, yeah.


This nerf is …
When Wolfkrone posted his suggestions for Viper on Youtube, his mostly received dislikes, I found that amusing by the way.

Well, the final thread is closed. Now the dust can settle on this madness.

God help us. I have no fucking clue what to expect.

Isn’t there another " Additional changes" week?

The Sagat angry scar thing was super duper stupid and didn’t take into account anything about the game outside of the move in a bubble. Even ignoring the intended use of just making it not punishable it didn’t take into account the fact that it allowed Sagat a ton of new combos. s.MP - Angry scar - sweep. s.MP - angry scar - s.HK - tiger upper - FADC - Ultra. cr.MK - angry scar - sweep. It basically gave Sagat 1bar fierce feint fierce. As cool as that sounds it would be horribly imbalanced and totally goes against his archetype. And it would make it so that he doesn’t have to prep his angry scar before hand if he wants to use it in a combo. s.MP - angry scar - HP Tiger Upper - FADC - f.HK - Ultra 1 = ~690damage

By far the best suggestion I’ve seen for angry scar was for it to carry over from the previous round if you don’t use it. Almost every other suggestion has sounded really really imbalanced potentially.

They removed it apparently and rolled it into the system changes week.

The japanese have until the 30th

aw man. they should add in the boss characters but give a choice of banning them in endless like in 3s. theyd also b banned irl tournaments and ranked matches

Patch-related NCR stream chat message deserves the highlight:

<gustavogoose> I can’t wait for Infiltration to completely fall off the FGC scene when Akuma gets destroyed by Capcom nerfs

i saw that

yeah and when gouken and hakan will get buffed everyone will talk about nerfing them because infiltration will be to OP with them >_>

this is what we were talking about leaving the top tiers alone and buffing the rest. the cycle begins again…

The haters of Infiltration were all bodied by Infiltration, it seems like. But the fact that he receives hate, seemingly he did something right.

what else is new?

yes…i support your opinion

buffing the rest will upset most top tier main player…but i love it.
and i can’t wait to hear 80’s gay whinning “why capcom buff up all mix up / dice rolling character?”.

capcom please buff all the rest low tier because this is the time to balance all character…

LOL @ you going through my older posts and flag them with random shit because you’re salty I flagged you for keeping on saying “80’s gay” phrase like the little scrub you are.

You must be 12 years old or so, otherwise I’d feel very sorry for you if you’re any older than that because you sure act like one.