just wanted to know your opinions or what you usually purchase.
at first i thought snap ins were really great just found out that if your going to make sticks from scratch and use wood or other thick materials for your panel, screw ins will be much more preferrable
For thin metal panels like on Hori or TE’s use Snap ins. Use screw ins for top panels that are not bolted down. Problem with screw ins is that they might eventually loosen from being hammered on and will need to be periodically tightened by opening the stick.
Sanwa and Seimitsu buttons, the top panel must not be more than 3/8 inch thick ideally so the screws can fit on. 1/4 inch or less is ideal.
i like screw ins cause theres more plastic for my money… heh heh
Sanwa OSBF have more color variety. OSBN’s/Seimitsu PS-14-XN can be mounted on thicker materials. But if it tops at 3/8 like rtdzign said, you’d have route the button area to decrease the thickness where the nuts will bite.
Also to prevent the nut from loosening, a glob of ordinary glue or some double-sided tape should work.
I like screw ins cause if you need to take out your buttons those little plastic nubs that keep them tight (and from spinning) can flatten out. Plus easier if you ever decide to customize your stick with a plexi panel and artwork
Screw-ins. I’m afraid Snap-ins will eventually break after repeated uses of changing out buttons and etc. Screw-ins feel more secured and are easier to install.
Screw-ins. Easier to resell if you swap them out. Don’t have to worry about bent tabs.
Screw ins snap ins break all the time.
After having to deal with screw ins that keep loosening no mater what I do (sort of gluing them in place), I’d have to say snap ins.
Snap ins. They don’t constantly come loose all the time and better feel.
I had the same issue until I grabbed a pair of pliers and a flat head. Then tighten the shiznit out of it.
You obviously haven’t had your stick loaned out to other players in tournaments as is the case with mine, which has been in the hands of just about every top Philippine player. Heavy use will loosen up those nuts.
I only ever used snap-ins but they are for a one time installation. after you install them a few times the plastic tabs get weak and don’t pop out the side as much. if you never need to remove them, they work great.
I prefer screw-ins. As I can account for thicker panels and the Semitsu buttons I want normally come in screw-in more often than snap-ins
As long as the stick shell can accommodate them, then screw-ins all the time. Pair of blunt nose pliers on the microswitch to tighten… those things aren’t coming loose for a very long time.
That is how I tighten them as well. Where you need the might of the whole Universe to loosen, or a good pair of pliers.
My HP and HK buttons keep coming loose, kind of wish I had snap ins. But knowing how many times I take them out, I’m afraid the snap in part might be loose at this point as well, so not too sure.
I use screw ins more often, that’s mainly because I use wood pannels. But if you have the choice, always buy snap ins, they don’t losen, they (I dont know why, feel better ! lol, someone here mentioned that too, it’s really the case, they have the same microswitch, but they feel better (perhaps thats just qualitative spread and no set rule)).
Another important factor !!
Sanwa screw in buttons are not appropriate for all buttons layouts ! Cause the nut is too big , you need 36.5 mm or better 37 mm buttons spacing ! (snap ins can have the standard 36mm , used in viewlix etc, or u can use seimitsu nuts).
I simply hold on to the nut, then grab the microswitch portion and give it a good twist counter-clockwise. My screw-ins never come loose this way. When I want to loosen them, I use a flathead screwdriver on one of the outside grooves of the nut and push it counter-clockwise just enough to loosen
The thing with screw-ins is that tightening by hand is rarely ever enough. A mechanical solution is needed, and a pair of pliers is perfect for this. Also need to make sure the plastic nut itself is the correct way round for maximum grip.