I think the narrowmindedness you speak of comes more from availiability than outright shunning of anything new. I don’t have the kind cash to be importing all these games, I would if I could, but I can’t, and there aren’t locations to play any of them.
(There is a tekken 5:DR machine about an hour away from my house, but I’m not that interested.)
Truth.
Nobody is bashing the EC or WC teams.
We’re just a bit surprised at how fast they got eliminated, that’s all.
I mean, personally…i’d hate to see my favorite player (Pyrolee) go down easy judging from his past performances at ranbats and qualifiers. It’s just a bit surprising.
I agree with this, except its not two random Japanese teams, remember the SBO teams had to qualify at local arcades and the qualify for the respective areas so the teams at SBO are top Japanese teams as well.
The odds would be just a bit over six percent (6.125, if all of the matchups are true coinflips). Hell, the odds of that happening even if the foregin teams were only 10% likely to win their match, one of them would advance over a third of the time.
As for the OCVs, that’s even uglier. Again assuming a coinflip for each match in the matchup, one team will sweep the other 12.5% of the time. That is higher than one would expect at first glance, but the odds of that happening across multiple teams drops very quickly – 00.024% likely, in fact. Less than one tenth of one percent of the time!
So it’s pretty clear that the rest of the world isn’t up to Japan (dur?). What if the foregin players had a 10% chance? That would mean having a teamwin rate of less than one percent! (0.937%) The foregin team gets swept just under 73% of the time (72.9%), and the odds of all four teams getting swept are still below 30% (28.25%).
In short: while each individual match means relatively little, I think there is enough evidence here (even in this small sample) to say that the rest of the world got owned. There may be many outside factors to explain some of this away (of which I would have no idea about), from just running bad at life to awkward conditions to bird flu, but it is fairly safe to say that the rest of the world’s best players are not on par with Japan’s best players. In other news, the sky is blue.
-Dippy
Mopreme! Check Your Pm’s Right Now!
this is for all those haterz!:
there are SOOO many **haterz **here in srk… they even hate people from their own homeland… i mean… wtf did you expect? A fcken grand final win? stfu will ya? why dont YOU go to japan get us a win??! and stop bitchin about how bad US did… remember before those pool of 28 teams… there were probably 300 Japanese teams competin for those 28 final spotz… give our guys a break will ya? if you bitch… next time we wanna see YOU compete @ SBO next year… i’d bet you(whoever da fck you are) would get double perfected 1st round of poolz and OCVed!! so stfu!!
You have to realize that the only game that gets localized quickly on console out of the three you mentioned is VF. KOFXI and GGX/ are only available on import and most of the people just aren’t gonna spend the extra cash to import when eventually they’ll be out stateside.
Plus, everything is run on consoles. So its not like your practice is paying off knowing that there will never be a tourney for it seeing as how the only way to play it is on a cab. Its not like the old days where you KNEW these games were gonna be at a shitload of arcades and most likely the tournaments would be there. Its a completely different scene nowadays. But of course that gets reiterated a little too much on this board.
But yeah, I play a lot of fighters. I play any fighter I can get my hands on. Its just a matter of these games getting a steady following as well. In Japan its only a train ride away to go beast on the community. In the U.S. its a plane ride across the map just to get some competition. And its money consuming when you look at it. And very time consuming if you want to throw that in as well.
But I do understand where you’re coming from with your valid argument.
P.S. Korea alone would rape the U.S. in T5:DR.
I just talked to him on aim.
Basically he told me:
The skill gap b/t the US and Jap. is very clear once again, and the US teams where clearly outclassed.
me (11:10:42 AM): Anything new? Style/tricks wise. Or was it the same shit and you guys just got outplayed
mopreme (11:10:56 AM): they are just way better
me (11:10:57 AM): It’s hard to believe you guys got swept like that
mopreme (11:11:06 AM): you wouldnt understand unless you saw first hand.
mopreme (11:12:24 AM): They are WAY better
I spose I would have done about just as good results wise, probably double perfected though… :lol:
But I was wondering is the fact that the foreign teams got OCV’d making more interest than if they got to 3rd round or so? I think most people were expecting some sort of reasonable result. This just makes things all that more interesting.
yo, if you see him online again, tell him to check his PMs! It’s REALLY important right now!!!
Jeez man where the hell do you go to school Harvard?
This part made me laugh:
I guess the only reason US did well at EVO was because it was on console. :sad:
The Japanese have great arcades all over the place right?
The US has a few arcades near/in every big city with some machines(hopefully in working order) right?
I’d guess the US 3s scene should just give up on 3s on an international level. Leave the foreign SBO slots to the more deserving japanese teams. Should probably give up on all arcade games on an international level…
Does anyone have any idea how much the Japanese Arcade Market makes a year compared to the US Arcade Market?
Preppy: what I was saying is that you can’t take your american or european playstyle to japan and be a least bit succesfull with it. Japanese have usually seen it, done it and know how to counter it.
But again, that’s just what I think:P
you seem to miss whats going on. its not that people are hating on the US SBO teams or saying that those teams in particular suck. its people saying that we as a collective whole suck.
I had High Hopes but thanks for lettin me Down:sad:
You’re just saying that because you’re fucking shitty at all games and live in the middle of nowhereassichusetts.
US will be up there soon
The US will never be better than Japan in the fighting games both countries play seriously… it’s just a hard fact of life. Fighting games are simply the most popular games in Japan (that are played competitively), the while scene in the US is slowly dying. Fighting games is to Japan as FPS is to the US.
“Japan’s Homeland Security is serious.”
co-signed