Glad to hear this thing converts the virtual on sticks nicely. I’d be interested in purchasing a few too.
Yo Matarick, I’ve got a few questions for you about the workings of that Twin Stick setup since I don’t have a copy of Virtual-On Marz nor a Twin Stick to actually do this with. Did you have to do anything special to your converter’s coding or wiring or do the Twin Sticks automatically map that way?
Any more info on when you can sell, Reckless?
I’d love one too. I can pay upfront.
I hooked up the stick to a USB PC adapter and tried to map the controller’s buttons to the PC then I used a Dualshock to match up the PC button matching to the face buttons. Here is the configuration:
Then in Virtual On, I had to configure the controller manually, within the in-game controller settings, using this configuration.
If I knew how to code the darn adapter, I would of mapped the buttons to match it exactly to the default Virtual On settings. At least the adapter is good for fighting games too with the default settings.
Oh, so you mean you used it to play Virtual-On ROMs/ISOs with your Twin Sticks. Okay, I see where you’re getting at with that. Now I’m curious to see if PS2’s Marz can work with that setup. Neat stuff.
Hi all,
New to the forums (and web site), long time street fighter fan and player. I never knew so much fan stuff existed =D I curse the day I sold my Saturn copy of SFZ 3 to buy the cheaper SF Alpha Anthology on PS2. I figured the Capcom controller would be comparable to the Saturn pad. What a piece of crap! That thing is like an automatic handicap! (“I HIT WEAK PUNCH TWICE, WHY DIDN’T HE PUNCH TWICE!?! ARRRRRGH!” I haven’t been able to enjoy playing since then because I knew how good the Saturn pad was! >:O Anyway, anyone have news of adapters that allow Saturn controllers to plug into a PS2? Also, I know the Magic Box for xbox could receive saturn pads, but I can’t find them anywhere. Any alternatives out there? And has anyone tried the usb saturn controller on a ps2 yet? How’d that turn out? I just ordered a batch of 2 of them and am hoping they’ll work on 360/PS3/PC. Maybe SF Anniversary would work with that pad on the 360? Sorry to ramble, great site and great forums guys!
No I use the PS2 in game controller configuration to map the controller to the inputs in the game. I just used the USB adapter on the PC to find out which buttons on the Twinstick correspond to the Playstation 2 Dualshock2.
I refuse to pirate games and I do not want to state such in these forums, besides I do not want to get banned for stating if I actively pirate commercial games.
Woah dude, slow down a little. First off, no, there is no news on any new Saturn to PSX converters from any major company. ReKleSS’s home-made one is basically the newest contender in that market, and there really isn’t a whole lot.
And if you did bother to read even the first post of the thread thoroughly enough, you’d have found that yes there is a mass-produced Saturn to PSX conveter still being sold. The only issue is that it has really really weird ass button mapping which is absolutely unsuitable to play any fighter with since you can’t exactly map the Select button on a PSX controller to do an attack in any fighter, can you?
Regarding the Xbox Magic Box, you’re out of luck trying to find any outside of say eBay or other auctioning sites.
As for your questions on the USB Saturn Pads, you really ought to have asked in the Official SEGA Saturn PC & PS2 Control Pad Thread found here:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=163928
That thread will also probably answer your questions about it, but since I’m feeling pretty good today, I’ll say right now that no, those controllers will absolutely not work with the PS2 or an Xbox 360. The PS2, despite having USB ports, do not accept actual controller input from them and the Xbox 360 just plain old won’t accept the controller as a gamepad due to it not having Microsoft’s security code or so I heard. These things work absolutely fine on the PC and the PS3, although regarding the PS3, there’s been a lot of reports saying that the USB Saturn Pad will absolutely not work for playing PS2 games via backwards compatibility. But, for playing PS3 or PS1 games, it works fine.
Anyways, welcome to SRK forums and please do remember to try the Search function (even though it sometimes breaks down) before inquiring because 9 times out of 10, someone’s beat you to it.
My mistake Matarick, sorry if I offended you any, my brain must have froze when I interpreted your post. I misread a little and I guess your statement saying that you used a PC to help you map buttons threw me off. Once again, my mistake.
Regardless, you can seriously change up the control scheme in Marz such that you can move with the buttons? That’s neat! I thought that Marz would’ve used some newfangled movement engine where it makes use of analog sensitivity, but I guess they really did stick to the roots with good ol’ digital in that respect. Good to hear!
Slowing down…
Heh, sorry for the outburst. I had actually read those threads you talked about, I was referring to updates on the adapter ReKleSS was doing, or perhaps any new developments otherwise. I will be a little more thorough in searching before asking, though. I know people don’t enjoy repeating themselves.
Thanks for the info on the USB pad and the 360, that pretty much sums up the whole situation for me. Although now I wonder if there are adapters to allow plain ol’ usb controllers to work on 360. I’ll continue digging 
and post in the appropriate thread if I find anything 
It’s all good, I was being sort of an ass myself. I really do hope that ReKleSS or somebody will provide services to build these converters for us and sell them since personally, my solder-fu is extremely weak and I just have no experience with circuits in general. I’d totally be willing to spend $20 on these things if they can be made.
I’m actually not 100% sure about the USB to 360 converter thing. From what I know about the 360 (which I will admit, is not much) you can’t use any standard HID USB device on the console at all. It’s why that company XCM made that XFPS line of converters. I’d ask around about those however, since those seem like your best bet barring super pad-modding.
I’ve read in the Saturn USB Controller thread that shrimpnoodles did some pretty nifty modding on his USB Saturn pad such that it was able to connect itself to a variety of project boxes for PS2, 360, PS3, and Dreamcast compatibility. I believe that the most probable way he did it was by replacing the USB end with a D-sub, but personally, I don’t exactly see how viable a method this would be.
You know, I was thinking to myself about the button layout of ReKleSS’s current setup, and it dawned on me that unless you have some attack buttons not mapped to the face buttons, it’d be rather troublesome when selecting the Start button color schemes for characters in the console versions of 3S. This brought me thinking, does anybody happen to know any other games where Start and another button aside from Select are required to be pressed together to enable some effect within a game?
I’m really starting to think that the Start+R/L button combos for Start and Select respectively would work much better for game pauses since I can’t think of any games that require pressing the Start/Select buttons and R2/L2 at the same time. It’d also help prevent accidental soft-resets since you’re less likely to press both shoulder buttons at the same time than accidentally pressing two buttons at the same time since pressing both triggers requires you to consciously use two different fingers on separate hands.
Hmm it’s December now. I wonder if he is still interesting in making and selling these. I’m still interested in buying.
Haha, I know what you mean Crisium. ReKleSS would hit a goldmine if he were to sell these at around Christmas time. I’d pay for 2 of them right off to go with two brand new Saturn pads I got myself off of eBay. Although, it does seem as if he’s forgotten all about this thread. :sad:
Actually, I myself would be very content if he could create and send me custom programming code where Start+R (Saturn) was Start (PSX), Start+L (Saturn) was Select (PSX), and Start+A (Saturn) was Analog (PSX). This converter would absolutely surpass the PS2 Saturn pad and the USB Saturn pads if ReKleSS or anybody else were able to program it such that the Analog button were to be implemented. Considering that the majority of PS2 to USB adapters out there are compliant with the PS3 either use the Analog button as the PS Button or have a button combination like Up+Select (I think the REAL converters use this combo), were the Analog button added as a button combo, people would be able to use an authentic Saturn pad for PS2 backwards compatibility on a PS3. That’d be a rather winning converter right there.
Are you still interested in making and selling these, ReKleSS?
I honestly doubt it. I’m trying to build one for myself right now and it’s a hassle trying to get everything soldered and fitted into a project box. It’s also even kind of pricey to make it for yourself. You’ve got:
-Roughly $4-5 for each extension cable
-About $15 for components needed just to get the converter reliably soldered together and programmed (PCB, 20-pin retention socket, 25-pin male parallel port connector, RadioShack project box, the ATTINY2313 microcontroller, the 100uF capacitor, and shipping for that microcontroller)
So that comes out to about $25 right there just to build one for yourself, not even considering if you don’t have the tools to solder or drill like I did. I’m sure after considering labor and shipping, it’s gonna come out to a lot more to buy one from someone.
Hey ReKleSS,
I don’t know if your still watching this thread but I was going through the tutorial page from the link and noticed that it says to, “Connect Saturn 1 and 6, PSX 1 to VCC.”
Isn’t pin PSX 1 a data line?
Did you mean PSX 5 which corresponds to VCC?
I wanted to put one of these together but I was a little worried about that connection.
I haven’t touched electronics in about 10 years so I just wanted to make sure.
If anyone else that’s tried this or is still reading this thread can help it’d be much appreciated.
Thanks,
bm_ss
Urgh, I thought I had subscribed to this thread, so I stopped checking it. After much slacking off, I’m almost done. I’ve managed to fix a problem with glitching when the saturn controller is removed, which was annoying me. I’ve got 10 of the crap converters as cases, and a few more chips and saturn extension cables - I’ll try to build one or two more into something else (looking at a gameboy cart case right now). I’m hoping to have these on sale by the end of the week.
bm_ss: Crap, you’re right. I’ll get that fixed soon.
Hey ReKleSS, great to see you back in action here. I can’t wait man!
ReKleSS, good to hear, I’m still interested in a few.