This should a pretty straight forward question if anybody has both, does the Keiō Saturn to PSX Adaptor work with the Saturn 3D Controller for Nights?
I’ll go out on a limb and say no, simply because none of the other converters support it. I would think he would advertise it as a feature if it were. Send Paul an e-mail and see what he says.
Are you trying to use the Analog function of the Saturn 3D pad??? It probably won’t work.
That controller was always a bit of an odd duck. Worked really well with the FPS games that supported it (Duke Nukem, PowerSlave, Quake), Nights, and Manx TT Superbike (which is next to unplayable without the 3D pad) but I never did like using it with much else on the system. It worked with a few other games (undocumented support) but I frankly liked using the Japanese digital pad on at least 95% of the other games better.
As far as digital mode of the Saturn 3D pad goes, it’s a bust. The D-pad on it is less comfortable than the standard Japanese digital pad’s and the buttons are ‘blech’ for fighting games.
Little-known fact – the shoulder buttons on the Saturn 3D pad were among the first of any mass-system controller to be analog. Nice for accelerating and braking.
Quite honestly, I think Sony got the basic analog design right with the DS1 controllers. Two analog sticks where they have them on the DS is the right configuration. It took until the DS2 generation to get them well-balanced – and granted the set-up and D-pad are still pooh for fighting games – but it’s still the best set-up for general 3D and FPS console games in particular.
Well that’s disappointing, well both that it probably won’t work and that the 3D controller sucks lol. I was planning to get a Saturn adaptor whenever they’re available again anyway and thought it be cool to use the Saturn 3D Controller as a sort of N64 emulator replacement since the standard one is cramped and has the age old analog worn out thumbstick problem. It had the basic requirements of an Analog Stick, Dpad, 2 shoulder buttons and six face buttons for it work in theory. I could always get a Hori Pad but they’re expensive to start and then I need to spend $30+ to get compatible adaptors that will only work for N64 and Cube controllers lol.
The Saturn 3D pad was never really made for fighting games to begin with…
It’s not a horrible pad per se but the problem is that, like the Virtual On Twin Stick(s) AND the Hori Flight Sticks for the PS2 and XBox 360, there were never a lot of games made to take advantage of it! Not quite as single a game stick as the others I mentioned but there couldn’t have been more than a dozen games released in the US that really used the 3D pad well. Japan? I dunno. As much as I imported from Japan (and I still have ALL my Saturn games), there was a lot I passed on, too.
Repeat after me also — Sega PCB’s DO NOT play well with many adapters, either… UNLESS it’s Bencao or Toodles designing the hardware that interfaces with the original Sega controller.
As far as fighting games are concerned, the better gear (aside from the Japanese Saturn digital pad) for Sega systems are really the Dreamcast arcade sticks… Either the Ascii FT series or the Agetec. The FT’s have the optical joysticks people are gaga about at the moment. The Agetec as-is has decent buttons and a JLF-like joystick. Any of those are generally a lot better than the joysticks that were available for the Saturn excepting the mythical HSS-0130 which has morphed into an expensive collectible.