man fuck his voice… what happened to his character in general:sad:
If you ever do that low tier SST tourney, i’m down for busting out my Genjuro or Wan Fu. 
Is there really a need for a low tier SST tourney? It’s not like this is MVC2, or even 3S in terms of character imbalance.
You have absolutely zero basis for saying this.
Just felt like pointing that out.
Well true…but once people see the power of Ten Mina they will understand…lol.
Low tier tourney I’m busting out Kazuki, Zankuro, Gaoh, Ukyo, Yumeji, Charlotte, Mizuki, Galford, Jubei, Tam Tam, and plenty others.
I was under the impression that Ten Kazuki was top tier.
Really? I must be doing something wrong with him. What makes you think this?
Something about using A+B combo starter as a super-easy long-range punisher into a 25-50% combo.
Oh, I got that down then.
I thought it was some super crazy shit I never heard of.
Nope, Kazuki is pretty damn simple.
I wish he had some of his moves from SS4 though, him and Sogetsu.:sad: Is Sogetsu tops as well?
Ten Kazuki yeah I forget he is Top Tier…I was thinking A Class since he has been drifting from S to A pretty often in the early days.
it seems as though little boys with unbrellas do more damage than him…
I actually play this game at a fairly high level. GG I don’t, but I’ve read enough to know that game is balanced as well, however some characters are considered to dominate, even if it’s by a slight margin. In Special, no character, not even Suija, is considered to dominate.
Also, SSVSP is simple enough to learn that you don’t need to waste hundreds of hours practicing execution, unless you decide to go for Gedo or maybe Enja. You can spend the time doing something fun like enjoying the game instead. So the balance exists at all levels, not just “you must play this game as your primary” levels.
Reading and playing are two different things. And of course it’s difficult to verify whether or not you actually play SP at a high level since the game is damn near impossible to come by and play in a public environment. Your performance in other games makes me doubt this claim.
Balance only matters at the highest levels because people who really want to compete will play at those levels. So this is more of an argument for which game you might prefer instead of which game is more balanced.
damn fool like half those chars are mid high to top tier…
seriously DG its not the characters but the spirit you use that determines their tiers
Well, first off- the performance you see is in games I only play there. I never practice those games. Therefore, I’m at a disadvantage. The only game you’ve seen me play in that I get any sort of practice in is ST, which isn’t played much. I do ok in that.
Fact is, a lot of the games you play locally, I don’t really care for.
As for balance- yeah, high level matters most, and I can see GG’s balance in high level by sheer variety of characters played in high level. SSVSP has an equal variety of characters. Tenka is slightly worse in this regard then Special- but still has a very high level of balance. I would put GG between Tenka and Special. (and that is a compliment- I could not put any Capcom game in that category, not even ST)
So then in SST, it is very possible for every character to compete. We dont have the same issues like we do with 3s, mvcs and cvs2 then. Could someone post the tiers for SST and SSVSP.
That would put them on an equal level of balance. Methinks you put SP up there because you like it more and have a better understanding of it than you do GG.
the tiering in SST is really in flux… the tops are Mina, Amakusa, Iroha… so actually there is a top three in this game too… you have characters that can compete with the three but its still a battle (much like third strike)…
also we have to take into consideration spirit choice… match ups change significantly when this is added to the mix which is why i dont really agree with Arastal when he says the balance isnt as good as SSVS… we haven’t explored every avenue of the game quite yet… there is alot to be said about spirit choice in SST…
Ten Mina is like the Chun li of SST but she has her weaknesses against Do Charlotte and Ten Iroha… Ken Mina has a better match up against Do Charlotte but loses straight up to Ten Sogetsu or Kazuki… its a lot harder to specify when it comes to tiers in this game… there is too much diversity
obviously there are crap characters like Genjuro… but we have yet to fully explore possiblities with him… im sure he will still be low tier but he wont suck completely like he does now