Samurai Shodown Tenkaichi Kenkyakuden (2nd loke test)

System_1 · May 28, 2005, 3:19pm

MMCafe:

A lot of people say the game feels great.

CHARACTERS
So, we have

SS
Hanz, Galford, Jubei, Uky, Nako, Hamaru, Charolette, Tamtam, Kyshir, Wanfu, Gen An, Amakusashir Tokisada [everyone except Assquake]

SSS
Genjur, Nicotine, Mizuki [everyone except Chamcham, Kuroko and Sieger]

Zan, Ten Samu
Rimururu, Shizumaru, Basara, Gaira, Zankur, Sgetsu, Kazuki [everyone]

SS0
Yoshitora, Unpi, Mina, Ged, Rasetsumaru, Rera, Suijasama, Enjatan, Sankur, Yumeji, Kygoku Hinowanokuni Ga [everyone except Poppy]

Original
Matsuribayashi Sugoroku, Andrew, Karakuri Ochamaro

Thats quite a lot of characters. 36 ? What the eh.
There are still some unused boxes, but since some characters like Amakusa and Ga were CPU only, we may have the count ? Maybe 1 or 2 characters left ?

Also, there is a random. And Kuroko should be there.

Ochamaro

Comes out of a box like an automat. Cute. His voice reminds Ojamaru.
He has a move that reminds of the rekkaken (follow up).
Throw ( ?) where he transform the opponent in a doll and make him dance. Extra cute.
His bukitobashi makes him wear a mask like those dances of the lion and run forward.
Extremely cute.

Nicotine

Copipe from SSS. He has a new move where he creates an image of himself, which allows to create traps with the overhead (like with Jojos stand).

Mizuki is also a stand user now. (or maybe a little like Chizuru ?). Her nail move changed.

Yumeji

Nearly only new moves. No more morphings. Something like Moriyas oboro, takes a pose then issen. Her tsubame kaeshi is like Ukys in SSS, with the tsubame flying. Also, its slower. In the CPU demo, she composes tanka poetry. New voices, but same VA.

GenAn

Not a lot of reports. He has at least the triangle jump. I think hes also copipe-d from SSS, but Im not sure…

Zankur has a new crouching slash, and 2 new moves.

Gas dash move (I think?) is shorter, but has a new follow up. Also, his mirror move can hit the opponent.

MODES
Like Banch said, the full list of modes are ? (ken) ? (ikari) ? (shin) ? (zan) ? (ten) ? (zero). One mode for each game.

? (Shin)
The E button has all the D moves from SS0 except 6D. Big offensive power. The character pauses when his ikari gauge is full, like in the first games. The bukitobashi destroys the weapon, which takes some time to come back on screen (not as much as in SSS, but still). Doll transformation ?

? (Zan)
E = evasion, close 6E = that weird dance where you go in your opponents back.
In air, E allows you to air guard. It feels like a blocking, its very hard to use for now.
AB allows you to charge your gauge. Big offensive power ?

? (Ten)
E has the same properties on the ground as Zan mode.
AB allows Samurai Combination, at least AAA, BBC and AABBCCC. THE 14 slash may still be here, but the command hasnt been discovered yet. With the 8 slash move, half of your gauge will fill, so the full combination should fill it completely.
ABC ikari bakuhatsu, ABC issen.

Like in TenSamu, when you ikari bakuhatsu, your ikari gauge will be longer if you have fewer energy. The power of the issen depends of this as well.

? (Rei)
E = D moves in Zero. AB = meditation. ABC = ikari bakuhatsu. DE mu no kychi, ABC issen. The Kychi time depletes even faster than in Supisupe.

The Higi and mikiri slide are only for?(ken) mode. The mikiri allows to charge your gauge for the higi.

The damage has been fixed from the last time. The strong slash deplete energy like it ought to, which means A LOT.
The issen is cool, the screen turns white and the characters are only shadows like in Hibikis move.

There is no death, and not even blood.

For now, the last stage is one of Supisupes 4 bosses (random ?)

For a reason, the normal throw is harder to do than a command throw like the mozu otoshi.

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Considering that in the first loke there were 12 empty slots, and now some of those are occupied by Gen-an, Nicotine and so on… I hope theyll finish the cast. There are only 5 characters missing, after all…

EDIT:

Mizuki : Vagina dog is now an air move. Her throw is narrower. Like many other characters, she can connect a middle slash with her bukitobashi. Even with that detail, the game is less combo oriented as the first test, which is good (well, beside the samurai combination, of course).

Unpi : the shichid has been redone, and has now more directions.

Rasetsumaru appears to be exactly the same, except the shippu retsuzan is a bit harder to follow up.

Enja is not our beloved Enjatan anymore… the tend only takes 40% of the bar. shobon.
Also, it has a power up version of it (23698741 AB). Meh, Enja not being the weakest character of his game is not our Enjatan !

There is some speach before some fights, like in SS0, but it’s not finished yet. 396 has a special dialogue with Genjur, but Hamaru just has a basic “you seem strong ! do you want to fight with me ?” even against Genj or Nicotine.

Needless to say, the ten gauge is broken and needs severe fixing.

There are 4 remaining characters… Assquake, Chamcham, Sieger, Kuroko ? A new character ? A polysamu character ?

cygnus · May 28, 2005, 3:25pm

6 grooves taken from the other games? So basically it’s like SamSho AE? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I’m suddenly a bit more interested in this game now that they’ve brought back enlightenment (even if it is toned way down).

Terry_nb · May 28, 2005, 3:50pm

The Grooves sound good to me and the same goes for Nicotine being in the game. I look forward to this SS …^^

Rhio2k · May 28, 2005, 7:27pm

Vagina dog?!

nameingway · May 28, 2005, 7:44pm

THANK YOU. when i read that i was like, what the fuck?

VManOfMana · May 28, 2005, 8:30pm

Mizuki has a move in Samurai Spirits V Special where a dog would come from her dress (or something like that). MMCafe forum people
started to call it “vagina dog”

Saotome_Kaneda · May 29, 2005, 12:02am

To elaborate even further, Mizuki, back in SamSho2(Shin Samurai Spirits), had a “dog” that accompanied her, similar to Galford’s Poppy assist. Said dog would transform into this ugly looking demon whenever it performed its moves. In SamSho0SP, they redrew her, and made an interesting change to her gameplay. All her kicks are really the “dog” clawing at you from under her hakama, and one of her moves makes her hop a bit, then spit the dog out to the ground from underneath her. All those things combined made up “Vagina Dog”.

System_1 · May 29, 2005, 1:49am

Guys, theres more info, but i really dont want to do the cut and paste crap anymore. If anyone wants to do it, here:

mmcafe.com/bbs

Just check the two SST threads there.

P.S: Im already loving the shinto doll and the matsuri monk. Actually, evreything so far sounds damn good (even if they didnt fucking redraw everybody like the Sammy rep promised). Hopefully theyll tune everything with multiple lokes, like NGBC, and add the final five characters (hell, even without playable Kuroko and Poppy it would be fine). Six grooves in SS is something unheard of.

gamespy · May 29, 2005, 6:44am

Hopefully, Cham Cham, Earthquake and Sieger won’t be completely abandoned. Kuroko I can definitely see as the final hidden character. Poppy could be playable but probably by doing a special code on Galford just like in SS5. If they’re the final hidden characters, all I need is a US release for the consoles and this game will rock.

Omega_Viscant · May 30, 2005, 12:12am

Gen-an?!?

hurray! my prayers have been answered!

And 6 grooves? holy shit!

This looks like SS done the right way. Looks like maybe this’ll finally be the SS game that gets some major support around here…

And here’s hoping for Seiger and Cham Cham…I could care less about earthquake and kuroko.

And that one new char’s name is way to close to “masturbatio”

…serously.

HellSap · May 30, 2005, 2:41am

sounds awesome…
though BRING BACK CHAM CHAM ARGH

she was like the only character I bothered playing in SS2!

matsuribayashi isnt anything like it if you know how to say it.

archetype · May 30, 2005, 3:59am

Damn I want this game. I hope the grooves are somewhat balanced. I don’t want some cvs2 shit like A vs. K or P, i mean like one grooves kinda dominates another one hard. Or a barely used one like S lol. hopefully they redraw the sprits in the next samsho.

System_1 · May 30, 2005, 4:29am

According to mmcafe, arcade operators at Segas last presentation were less than happy with SSTenka. Not because it was a bad game, but because SS doesnt make them any money. SS5 and SS5S were huge flops, only grabbing the attention from a handful of hardcore SS players. NeoWave and KOF2003, on the other hand, make them a lot of money (KOF2003 was the most profitable machine in Japan, in 2004).

Plus, the fact its being released a month after NGBC means they will just choose one of the two (NGBC, obviously).

Also, they were happy with NGBCs controls and gameplay.

NGBC will also be the last AW-Net game from Sammy (meaning, AW-Net failed after only three games… nobody liked having to gather points to play with the secret characters… not even SNKP, which was forced to do it. way to go, Sammy!).

System_1 · May 30, 2005, 4:54am

logical move- the people who made Kohan did such a thing to get out of their contract with Strategy First (Who didn’t even pay them)

Too bad Kohan II stunk.

really though, SNK’s moneymaker is KOF. Seems that and FF are the only popular Neo games in Japan. SS always was more popular in the US I think anyways.

Rhio2k · May 30, 2005, 11:28am

I think she’s been peaced out by snk. “Nei tan iroku waka keeeeii!”

System_1 · May 30, 2005, 3:37pm

they should put all SS characters in if not any new ones. Shiki, Asura, etc…

mainly/most importantly : ss2 must play/feel like ss2
(aswell as the others)

Omega_Viscant · May 30, 2005, 10:31pm

erm…wtf is a copipe?

…seriously.

System_1 · May 31, 2005, 12:36am

copy and paste.

DA_GAME · May 31, 2005, 2:04am

DA GAME didn’t know this game was coming out?Have to check out MMCafe.com for more info.

System_1 · May 31, 2005, 9:08pm

wow thank’s for the info time stop.