Wow, I just fought this 10000bp Akuma today, destroyed him in the first round but the second round he started the run away Akuma routine, the problem was that he was really good at it. I just couldn’t catch the guy.
Anyone else got lamed out by an Akuma player this badly? What the hell do we do about it? I tried to just fireball-war with him but as soon as he random ultra’d a lagspike came and killed me…
Hello I am looking for some help with the Honda matchup, particularly when just outside of the cr.mk, st.hk range. I play a Honda player who likes to pace back and forth in this range. All my fireballs are jumped and punished, my jump ins are stuff with st.HP from Honda and st.FP and RH seem pretty effective at counter poking my st.hk and cr.mk at this range as I attempt to keep him out of ochio range. I tend to give up a lot of space attempting to avoid this situation and end up getting cornered which is really bad of course. How can I keep Honda out and without giving up tons of space or alternatively what is a good way to get in on Honda so I can mix him up? Any help would be appreciated as I’m have difficulty figuring out what to do.
I don’t post guides, but afaik I have posted a large amount of matchvids here, there’s a lot to learn just from watching those. Like how important solid footsies and great execution on her sho fadc, cl.hp combos are.
For example on my channel I have a ft5 set up against Ryan Hart’s Ryu from SVB’10, and a bo3 set recentley from just a few weeks ago, not to mention the recent matches against demulant. Just counting that you have a ton of content on the vs. Ryu matchup.
Just because I don’t have it down in written word doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Other than that I also post a lot of new info that aren’t matchup specific like option selects or revelations that I’ve experienced with her. So complaining about me not writing up any guides, don’t you think you’re maybe asking a bit much?
Ah great idea Skatan! Concept matches!
You gather your best video matches on each match up or one from another good player if you’ve got some favourites. Post them here for smashingme to add to each character in his first two posts. This is how they have things in the Makoto match up forum. I think that will be a great help from you Skatan instead of having your info and vids scattered all over the place.
Not gonna look through all tabs for it but I know you posted some good matchup info in the previous matchup thread. Which I copied here.
I could use some help in the Abel matchup,
last friday i played a few matches with Rico and his Abel is a bit different than most…I felt that once he got in, I had to guess, and was just getting run over…I’m sure some of this comes with unfamiliarity and getting overwhelmed after the first knockdown…he rolls around like sonic the hedgehog and gets a really meaty ambiguous cr.hp
In later matches, I tried to keep him just outside of standing rh range and would dance in and out of that and counter low mk range…I also am terrible at reading when EX throw is likely to happen, I think I just need to be less greedy with my aggression post knockdown.
Rico seems to out guess me at every turn, granted, he was running over most people at CF that night.
This just inspired me to write a guide, The 48 Killing Arts Of Japanese Schoolgirls Wearing Red Bloomers.
Stay tuned.
Against runaway Akuma’s that like to air fireball a lot, forward dash. It might not look it will go under air fireballs at times but it will since Sakura’s hurtbox lowers a little during the dash. and ofcourse sakura’s srk also slides under air fireballs.
If he tries to air hurricane kick out of the corner, jumpback mp, if that still doesnt catch him, mp srk.
Not sure what the best OS is against Akuma’s teleport, I tend to use ex srk.
Yeah thanks, I was using OS ex srk thats the only one who hits him out of it. He was just mixing it up like crazy. But I probably just played really crappy because I got annoyed.
Looking forward to your guide, you coming to the fighnight this thursday?
If you ever get in on Dhalsim and knock him down and decide to go for meaty LK tatsu, if you do:
Meaty LK tatsu, cl.FP xx Lk tatsu, cr.FP xx LK Tatsu
and he blocks all of it, the last LK tatsu (the one you cancelled from cr.FP) will hit late thus creating a frame trap.
He can obviously still do stuff in between the other LK tatsus, but for the most part he will block this and you can land a nice frame trap on him, especially since it’s after that last tatsu that the opponent tends to push a button.
If someone could actually test this though, I wasn’t sure if it was just an anomaly occurring during the match or if it’s something that happens 100% of the time (or even 90% of the time for that matter).
Make sure the first thing you do is change the name of the guide to something that doesn’t say,
“Sakura players are all pedophiles and weebos.”
They’re not?
im not… i only started playing sakura cause she was shoto controls without being a shoto. =/
and she was bottom tier and im a sucker for bottom tier.
@mingo: thanks a lot for the ibuki advice, didn’t know about those options
@flowers: chill
@robin: looking forward to the guide but yeah, the name is awful
sakura is hot and bottom tier so there really isn’t a reason not to play her.
The name’s fine. If we can’t poke fun at the stigma attached to Sakura players who can?
yeah, exactly, think of a funnier name.
Not everyone. Don’t paint us all with the same brush. When I got SF4 I was completely new to online and competitive play. I had no idea how old any of the characters were. I had no idea that Sakura was in a school uniform. I just liked her moves, her fight stance, her happy-go-lucky nature and her win quotes after a round (and I rarely won any rounds).
I don’t fap off to Sakura. I was always the kind of person to have alot of friends around me. Some are guys some are girls. Sakura is the type who would be a good friend not someone I’d be thinking about fucking with.
I can’t beat Rose. Is this her worst matchup? I’m starting to think so. Everything’s a counter hit and I can’t move!
I’d say Rose is Sakura’s worse match up by far.
I agree that Rose is her worst matchup, fought the best Rose in Holland yesterday. It wasn’t doable for me.
Anyway, your best bet is c.mk > srk buffering out of range. Score that knockdown and input that OS srk because you can’t let Rose get away.
Rose can rape you onwake up with frame traps. Try to do EX shoryuken reads because you have to get in there somehow.
Question: can you OS or beat Vega’s kick/punch escape flip somehow?
I’m guessing you played gravity ninja ;p, he likes to do empty jumpins a lot to bait your cr hp. mix it up with st.hp. and then at least you can keep him from jumping in on you.
But still Rose matchup feels so unfair. You can’t stand anywhere without getting owned (closerange, midrange, farrange). The only time I can pull of a win is when I somehow force the rose into the corner, and start doing frametraps or score a knockdown.
Rose is sort of free on knockdown(without her U2)
lk tatsu on wakeup isnt a very smart idea, although it beats her ex qcb + K(forgot the name) her dp grabs you out of the air. (not 100% sure about this, maybe I was doing the tatsu too soon)
Your best bet is safejumps with OS shoueken to prevent backdashes and from there keep the pressure on.
You can play footsies with Rose but you have to be gdlk in your spacing.
dealing with U2: bait it out and just block.
Vega’s backflip OS: do a jumpin, keep holding forward, do a cr short, keep holding forward, do a st short or st lp.
If he does a backflip, you keep walking forward and you can time a cr mk srk to punish him.
This is just one OS, you can probably OS forward dashes to catch him as well. maybe even punish him with a st hp into fat combo? or OS an ultra that will probably catch him as well ;p
I wouldnt know because the Vega’s I play never use backflip, that move is so bad