Sakura Setups and Safe Jumps

[shano]

Lol this may sound stupid but how do you do a Option Select jump back?

[funkie]

When you press j.hp do upback at the same time

[Skatan_Milla]

For the record of anyone discrediting funkie, Sakura does have unblockables on about 12 characters of the cast, she even has semi unblockables with her mk shunpu on some characters wakeup (only way to block is holding down forward LOL!).

[funkie]

I found some more other then the mk.shunpu one. and ty

[Javed_Patel]

Only reason I discredited him is because of his attitude.
Plus after everything he still hasn’t shown anything new to be honest…
Keeps saying he needs another 6 months to finish.

[LivewireX]

For the record of anyone discrediting funkie, Sakura does have unblockables on about 12 characters of the cast, she even has semi unblockables with her mk shunpu on some characters wakeup (only way to block is holding down forward LOL!).

Only way for them to block is by holding 3, huh? That’s actually kinda funny, albeit a bit counter-instinctual I think. Oh, and 3 = down-forward, sorry. I find numerical notation more simple to read-write oddly enough.

[shano]

On Chun Li after EX Tatsu into sweep press st.lk then immediately go into mk tatsu only way for her to block is by crouching forward and she cant block standing.

[shano]

When you press j.hp do upback at the same time

Thanks could you please tell me the exact way to do this and the timing of pressing jump back with hp and how long should i hold upback for?

[LivewireX]

On Chun Li after EX Tatsu into sweep press st.lk then immediately go into mk tatsu only way for her to block is by crouching forward and she cant block standing.

As a relatively new user to AE Sakura (hell SFIV Sakura), I’m kinda confused on at what point in the EX Tatsu you’d cancel into the sweep and am simply assuming it would have to be an FADC, because if EX Tatsu finishes, it’s a launcher.

[A-LX]

Thanks could you please tell me the exact way to do this and the timing of pressing jump back with hp and how long should i hold upback for?

its exactly as he says, say you jump in, when you press the HP to hit him, you press up back at the exact same time.

As a relatively new user to AE Sakura (hell SFIV Sakura), I’m kinda confused on at what point in the EX Tatsu you’d cancel into the sweep and am simply assuming it would have to be an FADC, because if EX Tatsu finishes, it’s a launcher.

after the ex tatsu you either walk up and sweep while she’s still air born, or dash and sweep

[LivewireX]

its exactly as he says, say you jump in, when you press the HP to hit him, you press up back at the exact same time.

after the ex tatsu you either walk up and sweep while she’s still air born, or dash and sweep

facepalm Wow. I’m such a freaking idiot for not thinking of that.

[Deebs]

It helps to understand how OSs work. The idea is that you input your os such that if your jump in whiffs, it comes out as soon as you land. However if your jump in hits or is blocked, there is a small amount of “hitstop” that causes you to land slightly later, so if you input your os properly you will still be in the air because of the hitstop and it won’t come out. The timing is the same for any os: dp, sweep, st. Rh, ultra, tatsu, jump, dash, whatever you want to do.

[shano]

As a relatively new user to AE Sakura (hell SFIV Sakura), I’m kinda confused on at what point in the EX Tatsu you’d cancel into the sweep and am simply assuming it would have to be an FADC, because if EX Tatsu finishes, it’s a launcher.

Im new to Sakura as well.

But what ya do is ex tatsu then dash when they are air born and do a sweep/cr.hk for the hard knockdown and immediately press st.lk then immediately do mk tatsu.

Test it out in training mode and you should get it down fairly easy.

its exactly as he says, say you jump in, when you press the HP to hit him, you press up back at the exact same time.

It helps to understand how OSs work. The idea is that you input your os such that if your jump in whiffs, it comes out as soon as you land. However if your jump in hits or is blocked, there is a small amount of “hitstop” that causes you to land slightly later, so if you input your os properly you will still be in the air because of the hitstop and it won’t come out. The timing is the same for any os: dp, sweep, st. Rh, ultra, tatsu, jump, dash, whatever you want to do.

Thanks for explaining it to me A-LX & Deebs just wanted to make sure i am doing it the right way when i implement it into my game against Akuma.

[mason]

Im new to Sakura as well.

But what ya do is ex tatsu then dash when they are air born and do a sweep/cr.hk for the hard knockdown and immediately press st.lk then immediately do mk tatsu.

Test it out in training mode and you should get it down fairly easy.

Thanks for explaining it to me A-LX & Deebs just wanted to make sure i am doing it the right way when i implement it into my game against Akuma.

I just tried for like 5 minutes and couldn’t get it once… If I perfectly time everything the tatsu doesn’t hit meaty… I think I might have the spacing wrong though, cause I could never block any of them with down/forward.

Hey all,

For a while I’ve been hoping someone might take the initiative to post some videos of these unblockables. 50/50 setups are pretty easy, but the unblockables tend to require very strict timings, for everything ranging from how long you wait before otoshi, what height you hit each otoshi at, to when you press your jumping attack. I think having a visual guide would be helpful for a lot of people (myself included.)

Since nobody seems to be uploading any videos I figured I would start doing some. I make no promises as to how many I will upload, or to with what frequency I will upload. Basically, whenever I teach myself a new one I’ll try to take a video of it and share it with you all. Lucky for you guys I don’t know very many, so I plan on teaching myself quite a bit in time to come.

Here’s something to start with. I’ll probably just edit this post as I upload.
Sorry for the quality… recorded on my phone.

Chun Li:

Ex tatsu, otoshi x2 (whiff 3rd), neutral jump, whiff c. mp, j. mk
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Visual/timing cues that help me: Wait slightly after ex tatsu to let chun fall a bit, then do your otoshi x2 such that it hits sort of the middle of her body and without much gap between the two hits. Do the j. mk quite late, so it looks like it should clearly be a crossup, and so it hits very deep. Compared to say, the unblockable on Akuma, I find this not to be too difficult to do reliably once you get the hang of it.

Normal throw, whiff cr. lp, j. mk
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Notes: The two above are safe jumps against ex sbk. The nice part is that if they do sbk, chun actually stays in the corner, unlike when chun gets hit by the unblockables and you end up in the corner. I would assume that this means you have to block away from the corner in order to not get hit by the sbk, but I didn’t test it.

Mp shouken, j. mk
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The above works with or without starting from an air tatsu juggle. The timing is the same as far as I can tell. This is also a safe jump against ex sbk, but you will end up in the corner if chun does it, so block accordingly. Also, Chun must quick rise for this to work. Personally, I wouldn’t use it much because of that one reason. Keep in mind that she can also “late” quick rise which will make your mk whiff (when testing the setup I realized how much I late quick rise without even realizing it.)

I feel like I’m really bad at these. I can’t make either of the first two ever not cross-up, but I can do the third one. My ones weren’t even close to being EX SBK safe jumps either though…

I found with the third one, if they don’t quick rise after doing your first j.mk, whiff a st.lp and do another j.mk and that was hitting unblockable!

[Javed_Patel]

Im new to Sakura as well.

But what ya do is ex tatsu then dash when they are air born and do a sweep/cr.hk for the hard knockdown and immediately press st.lk then immediately do mk tatsu.

Test it out in training mode and you should get it down fairly easy.

Wow, this is actually pretty nice!
If you land counter hit you can get a st LK after it
Kinda useless against people with good reversals cos they’ll just hit dp as they see your mk tatsu

[DaFlipMastaXV]

hey is there a vid of the fireball setup midscreen? I cant seem to get the timing or figure it out…basically the one where the fireball hits and u can combo after it…sorry if its kinda vague but I’m sure people know/seen it before

Or at least some sorta advice as to how to get it to work

[Javed_Patel]

hey is there a vid of the fireball setup midscreen? I cant seem to get the timing or figure it out…basically the one where the fireball hits and u can combo after it…sorry if its kinda vague but I’m sure people know/seen it before

Or at least some sorta advice as to how to get it to work

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[hehwat]

hey is there a vid of the fireball setup midscreen? I cant seem to get the timing or figure it out…basically the one where the fireball hits and u can combo after it…sorry if its kinda vague but I’m sure people know/seen it before

Or at least some sorta advice as to how to get it to work

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thats me doing it

adding the cmk is character specific but raw dp should always work if u get the overhead. U have to walk fwd a lil for it to work

its at 3;30

[DaFlipMastaXV]

awesome thanks guys! still trying out these unblockables but i think this setup is really useful too

also im guessing the fireball doesnt matter? the first vid shows hp fire ball and the other one is lp?

sigh i just cannot seem to get this…if i walk forward too fast i get the upper and if i wait it doesnt time right…

[hehwat]

awesome thanks guys! still trying out these unblockables but i think this setup is really useful too

also im guessing the fireball doesnt matter? the first vid shows hp fire ball and the other one is lp?

sigh i just cannot seem to get this…if i walk forward too fast i get the upper and if i wait it doesnt time right…

QCF hold fwd a biit hit lp u have to charge to lv 2