I almost never to 50/50s in the corner. Unblockables are different though… But I still won’t give up my position unless I think I’ll end up with a life lead sizeable enough that I feel comfortable playing the rest of the round pretty lame.
50/50 all the way for me lol.
I would use them much more often if I was at the point where I was consistent with them, not quite there yet though.
Hmmmm, it depends for me… if its a character I have to ‘chase’ for example, Guile, Dee Jay, Blanka etc. I don’t bother doing any setups unless it was a game ender.
On the other hand if its like one you want to be away from like Zangief then I absolutely 100% go for it.
The worst thing is though, when you first go for these setups people end up blocking from forward anyway and block the setup -_-
I have a bad habit for only going for the fake crossups and never the crossups 
I can’t seem to replicate the Adon setup. I think I just have to mess around with the timing.
btw, here is a nice OS I use against dictator after the Otoshi x 3 setup. Just do back + lp, back, lp.
If Dicta does nothing, st.lp, st.lp comes out
If Dicta does devil reverse, backdash comes out and you can punish with ultra 2 (always hits)
If he teleports behind you, you get a free tatsu loop.
He can’t do scissor kicks or psycho crusher cause he has not enough back charge, so with this option select you just need to be careful against a teleport in the corner. Mix it up with istant overheads or lk tatsu for a deadly mixup 
Having a bunch of trouble with the Sakura one, when I get the Otoshi so that I barely hit her head, I keep landing in the corner instead of on the proper side.
I find the Sakura one so much easier with st mp instead of cr mp… dunno why…
You delay Otoshi by just a second and on the first otoshi it’ll look like her hands will not be touching sakura’s head at all and you’ll see the hit (explosion looking thing) between her head and your hands then second one I do it straight away and then no whiff needed so just hold up after second otoshi and upon landing press mp (standing or crouching try both see which is more consistent) and hold up forward as soon as you’ve pressed mp and then press mk on the way down, very easy once you get the timing of the otoshi barely hitting her… not delayed very much at all but just a second I’d say… mess around, pause the game so that you can see hit in between the other sakura’s head and your sakura’s hands, and that your hands and her head aren’t touching.
The Adon one I can’t get O_O
I only tested it that one time when Wilken first posted it and got it on 2nd go and not sure why I can’t get it anymore? So annoying -_-
Oh, one other thing I wanted to note, I tested option-selecting h.shou into the setup against E.Ryu as a teleport punish, but it appears that the time he spends crossing through her causes the shou to come out towards the corner.
s.mp worked perfectly, thanks!
Is there a way to option select a jump, so for instance if he teleported you could jump back and cr mp, dp him?
I don’t believe so, also I got the Sakura one once then tried to add something to the end and can’t get it again lol. A side note, it looks like that crossup j.mk > s.hp xx l.tatsu > cr.mk xx h.shou doesn’t work if she’s not standing
Yes, you can os a jump. Same way as you’d os a normal, special, ultra, grab, dash, or block.
Hooray for hitstop.
for ryu i do medium otohi otoshi nothing fwdjump cmk jump hp and it so easy. I always go for it. Its totally worth it.
Right fair enough… I can’t option select anyway… I don’t understand them at all…
I can crouch tech and that’s it.
As for character specific combos with sakura, I wouldn’t bother learning them or using them much because your normal combos will work on everyone and do enough damage IMO… much more consistent.
They’re cooler, slightly more damage and stun but its good enough to do regular combos IMO…
Wouldn’t really prioritise learning character specific combos.
@hehwat: I find doing the otoshi x2 and whiff 3rd, backjump, fwd dash, fwd jump HP/mk is like the EASIEST one to do and the most useful because it works on like 10 characters…
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[FONT=Arial]So I found out today, if you whiff the 3rd hit a bit earlier, so that its underneath the other character the setup works on more characters[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]and it will be an unblockable on Dudley !![/FONT]
Probably on boxer too but the recording I used didnt connect with all the kicks of ex tatsu
So thats basically both the rows of the previous setup
I recorded it with my cam to show exact timing but have to edit it first
Dunno if this has been posted yet I only skimmed the thread.
After Ex Tatsu -> otoshi setup on ryu, ken, e. ryu and maybe akuma like you would for the fake crossup you can backdash -> lk tatsu -> forward dash -> lk tatsu and it will cross them up if they are crouch blocking and it will also cause reversal srks to whiff.
Here’s the video that shows the small difference in otoshi timing
My apologies for the ghetto quality
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edit: oh wow just found out the 3rd whiff isnt even necessary all thats needed is the same timing of the first two hits
Pretty sweet, well done Alex!
You should also have test if they can dash out, I found out even if you do it so they can’t walk out, some characters can dash out.
good find though!
Even though there’s already a very easy unblockable on Dudley, I think this would be better since this 1 setup works as a 50/50 against all the characters in the video, did you test if the same setup crosses up if you use j.MK instead?
I shall test this out later today my good man!
Haven’t seen or heard of it before.
yup, j. mk crosses up on all chars with the same setup
Hmmm, strange I got the unblockable on Dudley but the same setup didn’t fake crossup those characters o.o
Also all of the characters can avoid it if they backdash into the corner lolwut…
Wow… ALL of Sakura’s setups can be backdash’d to avoid, but I’m guessing the dash can be punished if they do it!
Also yep, this unblockable works on dudley, also as easy as the other one and probably better to learn since it works on more characters where as the one in the list is just a Dudley specific one!
Nice find Alex 