Sagat Improvement Thread

lol yea thats all we need, sagat with CC ultra. Would be funny though

DHEvil: Stop trolling. Sagat’s backdash is so ass and he’s nowhere near as slippery as Sim. The choice to give him high health is a wise one when you consider how much trouble he has with knockdown situations/vortexes. He can’t just tele during a gap in a string. He has to try to TU or block it out. Backdash will get him merked more often then not.

Okay are you seriously trying to say that poor Sagat has to block mixups therefore he should get more health than most of the cast who incidentally are also not possessive of teleports.

What the hell do you think Cammys’ been doing? Chun? Fei Long? Ken? You get the picture. Oh and guess what? It’s harder to get in on Sagat than any of those characters to begin mixups/vortex in the first place. Funny you think you deserve more health than any of them.

I don’t think Sagat deserves anything. I’m telling you the justification of why he has ALWAYS had high health. It’s not hard to understand why. Generally mobility has a direct correlation with health in the SF series. Sagat is slow moving and for the most part a tank character. Meant to dish out pain in large quantities and be able to take punishment as well. That’s all it really is. Are there exceptions to this rule? Sure. Look at Sim and Gouken. Sim is on the slow side with low health and Gouken has good mobility with above average health. But they have other balancing factors in their gameplay. And you can see why they have the health they do.

Giving Sagat 1000 stamina with the tools he has doesn’t make much sense, not that it matters since neither do counter ultras and bunch of other dumbass shit Capcom does so I guess it doesn’t matter much.

The drop in health. and his low mobility… make his back dash a touch faster. That back dash coupled with the tweaked health means he’ll be doomed.

I also don’t think anyone can disagree that having such great rushdown tools for a character that’s supposed to be a zoning tank doesn’t make much sense. No, your reasoning that Sagat doesn’t have a teleport and has to block if he doesnt have the meter to tu fadc is not a valid justification lol. Plenty of characters don’t have teleports, don’t ever have the luxury of a safe TU move and, as a result, always have to block. And they weren’t given the extra stamina (Gouken has 1000 btw, not above average), not to mention that they are also easier to get in on than Sagat. He can take damage, hits hard, and he’s great at keeping people out - He SHOULD have some difficulty up close to reward players for getting in. It’s not like TU to FADC to loldamage isn’t still an amazing threat up close (and even from a range thx to kara).

And btw, what’s all this about lower stamina for Sagat? Lower damage, both on just TU and in general, have been rumored everywhere but I haven’t heard anything about lower stamina.

They’re saying he felt like he had average health during testing though nothing is concrete yet.

Prof: I feel you. I’m saying this is probably their reasoning for letting Sagat have high health. We all know Capcom can’t test anything for shit and they have absolutely no foresight when it comes to how a game will evolve competitively, so they let alot of things slip through the cracks and DP FADC’s is probably the most obvious thing. They probably just didn’t think it would be THAT good.

This is why I lol my fucking ass off whenever Capcom does some dumbshit in a game and people are shocked. I mean really…these are the same guys that let roll cancelling slide in CvS2. Same dudes that didn’t catch option select parry in 3s. The same niggas that let MvC2…well…BE what MvC2 is all about in general.

Sooooooooo,yeah. Don’t expect great things from these guys. Take it as it comes guys.

Great, except that the tiger uppercut and tiger knee will beat plenty of knockdown attacks. On the other hand, characters like Abel, without a good reversal move (the closest thing he has is tornado throw, but try and get out of blockstrings with that), just have to sit there and block until they get a wide opening.

sagat is so fucking busted he gets TWO ssf4 threads when all the other characters only get ONE!
FUCK!

I’d like to see Sagat get and invinceable Tiger uppercut but lower the damage so he can break out that bs rush down that rufus does.

Haha what? Sagat eats Rufus for breakfast, no need to TU, just tiger knee and RH all day (with the usual tiger shots of course).

i pooped a little from laughing so hard, how can someone even think that up

Yea, it’s definitely his worst matchup.

I had to poop when I read it so I pooped a lot

Why not just make this tiger uppercut finish with a bison style head stomp when wiffed too and make it safe on block and wiff. Oh yeah, I think sagat could totally use that

I think Tiger shots should do 300 damage and bob up and down while moving across the screen at fast speeds.

Also, 150dmg chip.

yes…

not to mention how about when he does tiger uppercut 5 tiger shots comes out at the same time while he’s going upwards!

(oh wait… that was ryu nearly 20 years ago)

-LAU

boost sagat? while were at it, we should give blanka laser eyes and zangief flight mode ;D

I think sagat should recieve a SPINNING PILE DRIVOR.