Sagat Improvement Thread

My point is valid. Sagat has an amazing Ultra I. What’s wrong with having one that (AS OF RIGHT NOW) doesn’t look as amazing. None of us know the properties or full damage of these Ultras (GAME IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT). And the usage is clearly already different. ITS A PROJECTILE. Hold your judgement until the game comes out.

Also, giving Sagat a projectile Ultra is NOT like giving Gief another 720 or Ryu another Metsu Hadouken. Face it, man. You’re just complaining for no reason.

I reckon that you should be able to combo after tiger cannon, that might make it useful.

“And the usage is clearly already different.” You may be right when some noobs just stand there throwing 6 continues fireballs or just stand there and eat fireball ultras.

The real “usage” of an ultra has always been or at least most of the time, a “guaranteed” connection. Lets say ryu, seriously no ryu fires a stand alone ultra unless used by or playing against some newbies, they connect it with various moves

Same case for sagat, it is just a projectile ultra like ryu, no one gona fire them without a “guaranteed” connection while the possibilities to connect Tiger Cannon is same with ultra1

If you mean the DIFFERENT USAGE is to kill someone who throw 10 fireballs in a row, and they deserved to get punished by this Tiger Cannon, then I’m really disappointed about the new “different usage”

You aren’t getting it. The real usage of SAGAT’s Ultra I is to be combo’d using whatever the hell he wants. You have an amazing Ultra I. DEAL WITH IT. Accept that maybe Capcom deemed Ultra I good enough not to waste a genuinely great Ultra on a character that already has everything he needs. You think you’ve got it bad? Talk to Honda, Guile, Vega about Ultras. And Fei Long? Hah.

Face it, Sagat doesn’t need another godly ultra. And like I said, THE GAME ISNT OUT YET. None of us have had much in the ways of time to REALLY get down the properties of the Ultras. Not even mentioning that the game ISNT OUT YET. Seriously. Stop whining and wait to use it before spewing bullshit.

You are fucking dense. That’s really all that needs to be said right now.

+1…

Nobody is saying that it ultra 1 isn’t going to be better, the problem is the lack of different applications. There seems to be a HUGE difference in the other characters second ultras with their applications. I imagine that Ryu’s ultra 2 will have some similar applications, but i very much doubt that you will be able to land it after his super. Blanka’s ultras have very different applications, Guile’s ultras have entirely different applications. The whole point is that it seems that there is ABSOLUTELY no difference between sagat’s 2 ultras other than the tiger cannon might have full combo in the corner, and destruction will have better anti air abilities. And that is assuming that they don’t fix the corner issues with Tiger Destruction. I’d rather his ultra be a command grab or something that would change the dynamics of how to land it, than be the exact same as what he has.

Exactly, you got the point, totally, thanks.

on jump ins… EX tiger shot -> Tiger cannon

Tiger Cannon seems pretty meh. There just seems to be no reason to pick it ever. I wish they would’ve gone with Tiger Raid, would’ve been interesting to see what could’ve been done with that.

Honestly, what makes the most sense is to make Tiger Cannon the new designated “juggle” ultra and remove some of the set-ups to connect Tiger Destruction. Sagat players won’t want to hear it but it does follow the pattern of giving the less damaging ultra more combo options and the more damaging other applications that Capcom seems to be following with everyone, plus it’d go a long way in balancing Sagat.

If they take away the TUxxFADC fwd+HK Ultra combo, i’ll change character.

its really funny that you will change mains cuz you might not get your overpowered ultra combo, 650+ damage :lol:

you must be a front runner

650+ damage is pushing it I’m sure. However, it does suck that if you make one mistake you’ll lose over 50% of your life.

Sagat is overrated.

I don’t care about Kara Tiger Shots…but I hope they remove Kara TU…The range on that is so ridiculous …making it unsafe to jump in even at full screen

The Tiger Cannon seems okay. It will probably function like Ryu’s 1st Ultra:

-Full Ultra in the corner and it leaves your opponent in the corner still
-Ultra through fireballs half screen, and maybe you can get off a kara Tiger Knee or Uppercut if you happen to trade with the fireball like how Ryu does with his Tatsu after his Ultra trades with a fireball.

i still see tiger cannon alot more versatile then destruction. you might be able to juggle it off of more things like: trade TU>TC, ex tiger shot>TC, FADC>TC, anti air TU>TC, anti air RH> TC , Genocide>TC etc etc.

This…

Just tested it out, TU > FADC > Forward Roundhouse > Ultra = 622 damage. Thats a little ridiculous for such a low-risk high-reward scenario.

What pattern is he talking about? Giving the less damaging ultra more combo options? Also, there are only three ways to combo into tiger destruction. Two of them are anti-air…