Sagat Improvement Thread

HELL MAN!!!ARE YOU KIDING!!! ALL OF THE JAPANESE “masters” ARE SAGAT USERES!!! THIS MUST MEAN SOMETHING!!!

here is the list
http://ipremii.com/index.php?r=j4il PG1
http://ipremii.com/index.php?r=rabj PG2

there fixed it for you

dude the kara tiger shot is…super easy what are you talking about

you want his super to have a homing abilty?:wtf: lol. this is a joke so dont freak out

the only thing he needs is pupils

I rather they just nerf tiger uppercut and not put in that scar bullshit or make the scar move require HP+HK because I don’t want to be in a match where that shit comes out of no where. Should have made it like alpha style where it’s qcfx2 start.

also Optic Blast

I’m pretty sure in SSF4 it’s already been said that it’s qcbx2 pp.

I may be wrong.

just tone his dmg down and he’ll be fine

im curious though, they nerfed the dmg on TU

but did Ryu’s srk dmg get nerfed as well? the fp version does 10 less dmg, but only has a 1 frame startup in comparsion to TU’s 5 frame start up

All of Ryu’s SRKs are active on the 3rd frame, if I’m not mistaken. They don’t do TU damage and don’t have TU range.

Kara tiger shot is not easy. If it was everyone will be doing it. That is unless you are a pad player, which it is easier to perform because the ps3 pad automatic reset the direction back to neutral.

it’s still comparable imo

10 less dmg for faster start up

the arc on both seem to be about the same for me

just wondering if they nerfed srk in any way as well

i think alot of people dont use the kara tiger shot because they want to turtle and spam them from across the screen, losing distance between you and the other guy is baffling to them.

can you go back to gamefaqs thread plz. I have enough of your lame comment comparing sagat to ironman. If gamefaqs is not good enough for you there is always a flow chart ken thread. Sagat player becomes baffled after a kara tiger shot? Plzzzzzzz

I don’t think you quite got what he was saying.

No, he didn’t.

take a shot at ken, how dare you:chainsaw:

you actually sound like your the one from gamefaqs, hormones are raging it seems

back on topic: Did I hear somewhere that sagats tu is faster now? like 3 frame startup or something?

(Serious Discussion Wanted)

Can someone talk about Tiger Cannon?
Whats good about it and why should people choose it (Apart from the Coolness or choosing it on purpose)
How is Tiger Canon better then Tiger Destruction? (in the sense of function)

I can only think of vs. some blind fireball throwers, it can kill them with a sudden ultra in distance, but no one do that in serious games, right?
but in all other situation, Destruction seems better?

If I have to make some suggestion,

  • At least give it a low version of Tiger Canon (still useless but more choice for the look…)
  • Make it something like Psycho Cannon in SFEX, which you can hold it and wait for people to come and release the button for more damage
  • Able to perform when the LAST FIRE BALL is STILL ON SCREEN

Tiger Cannon doesn’t change the nature of playing against Sagat at all. Well, you can use it against a fireball spammer as you mention, but who wants to do a fireball war with Sagat? The only good thing is getting full ultra in the corner.

yea… good point about "Getting full ultra in the corner. "
I really hope that there’s some unique function for it, but unfortunately i couldn’t think of any…

Capcom should tweak it a bit to make it worth to stay… otherwise it will just like giving Zangief with a 2nd command throw ultra with less damage…

One more imagination, what about One big fast tiger cannon which only got 1 hit and whoever get hit with it reflect from the wall like Gouken’s Ultra2?

Anyway I hope capcom dont change it to something like a command throw while they can’t think of anything else… (ie grab, kick 3 times, tiger cannon!)

So, you have one Ultra that amazing and ridiculously easy to combo into. And another that you can also combo into, and can be used at a distance… And you’re whining about it? Look at the rest of the cast, man. Tiger Cannon is fine. And it deserves to stay. Not that you guys will use it.

Also, Capcom isn’t changing anything. It’s here to stay, dude.

Whining? Please make things clear.

We’re discussing about the function, properties and usage of the second ultra is just too similar to the first one, not “OMFGITSNOTPOWERFULENOUGHFORUSTOPAWN”

As the Dev team said Ultra is something different giving the char another strat. to use or to fight against and for sagat this is absolutely not the case, I dont mind if they give something weak like 250dmg as long as the usage is different, there has to be a point for the player to choose that ultra, not something “same usage with different animation”

The way they work are almost the same, no one blind fireballing sagat,
in this case its just like giving ryu a yellow hadouken with fire and name it “golden hadouken” as ultra2 or giving Zangief another command throw and name it “Real 720 Buster”