Dude, even N. Sagat wasn’t top tier, and he certainly wasn’t top through alpha. You’re just wrong.
just to add to your point, ken doesnt have a srk fadc to full ultra so you would assume ryu wouldn’t get it either
especially since shinryken=metsu shoryken in aspects of damage/range/movement
so O-sagat in SSF2X and Vsagat in alpha3 are very very very solid middle tiers. roger that
O.Sagat is from Super. He is not from ST. He is a secret character. His next iteration N.Sagat was nerfed which is why no one uses him. VSagat damn sure wasn’t top tier. He was high tier to upper mid.
Sagat wasn’t slow either, he was quite fast compare to SF4 Sagat. The thing that made CVS/SF4 Sagat stand out is his ability to link/chain jab and shorts into each other into special/super. Past Sagat had very limited hit confirmable normals. In Alpha 2, he can’t even cancel any crouching kicks into special.
Super is SSF2
ST is SSF2T
O.sagat was similar to SSF2 sagat but he was even different than him.
O.sagat required a secret code to use in ST. He wore the original WW 1P color. He couldn’t tech throws, but his damage was retarded, and his arms were invincible during TSs.
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- Light punches should cancel: The only character in the game with light punches that links, not combo.
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Vega would like a word with you
i think tiger cannon probably wont whiff hits after certain corner combos like his curent one. plus if it had good speed it could be good for fireball battles (maybe a good tool vs akuma?)
yes it would.
I don’t want to speak on his behalf, but I think the glitches he’s referring to might be [media=youtube]bUM58TQ00qI]this or [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkfyeC3r30s[/media] The one vs. Rose isn’t that important because it’s fucking Rose, the one vs. Sagat is just dumb.
I don’t think Sagat should get all the hits of his Ultra in the corner either, especially not when you can [media=youtube]DnqD6I1Lo0k[/media] It’s not that hard to do either.
Air Tiger Shots :razzy:
I haven’t read all of the information about what’s going to happen with Sagat, cause I just don’t give a fuck.
But, I think everyone should relax, and realise how ridiculous it is when you loose respect for others because of something as trivial as a video game character, using terms as - scrub - to which I can’t even relate (who gives a flying fuck about how good you are at a game, if you doo, you are to immature to understand what I am trying to explain, you need to grow up and get your priorities right)… I can’t seem to understand why anyone would be having a major discussion, insulting each other because of some video game, like it’s going to make you rich, get layed, or develop as a human being (what ever your preference is)… you need to stop jerking off with video games, it’s unhealthy.
Here is a video that can maybe clarify what’s in store (minute 01:45): [media=youtube]Ot-lpBOT_rE[/media]
Let the hate begin LOL
Why are you even on these boards at all? No, seriously. Why?
Next time use an argument for the question, it will at least make look educated…
Because I’m an casual SF4 player that uses Sagat, for fun reasons only.
I see a lot of speculation going on, so I brought in a video that might help, although I had to point out the fact that some adults are actually acting in a childish way.
I hope it clarified your intricate question!
In other words you came in here to preach?
EDIT: I guess what I’m getting at is you start a post in a Sagat SSF4 thread by saying you don’t give a fuck about what happens to him in SSF4. I would call that childish… but it’s not. It’s just stupid.
Maybe I didn’t articulate well the first frase of my post, I was trying to say that I’m not going to read all the posts on the subject, because I can spend that time on something more importante, meaning I just read a few to get an overall idea, and then posted a link that I thought that could help. I guess why you didn’t like my post wasn’t because it doesn’t make sense (because it does), it’s because you felt identified with the profile I gave, and you don’t like to be confronted with the fact that your a lame, double digit IQ’ed individual, whoes highest aspiration in life is being good at a video game. Not that playing games is something bad, I play them myself (it’s a hobby like any other) but I think it’s rather unpleasant to see human beings debate ferociously about whether Sagat should be nerfed or buffed, whem there are other things in society and life that are way more urgent, and that people rather not talk about… meaning it’s pathetic, it’s ok to have debates as long you don’t act like an orc.
I’m not going to keep engaging in this debate with you, if you can’t understand what I explained, I’m sorry!
I don’t think that you should ever post something online making fun of someone else for having a lower intellect, and have a single mistake of any kind (spelling in your case) in your statement. I can tell that you really like people to think you are smart, so you should probably keep spending your time with stupid people. I don’t care what the debate is about, but I just think that you should know that most people read your statement and perceive you as a very dumb person who wishes to be seen as smart by everyone. I’m not saying that you aren’t smarter than me, but you definately are not smart enough to be putting down other people for having a “double digit iq.”
points at Shin Kazuya and laughs
Dude,save yourself the embarrassment, keep your comments to a sentence or two.
Sagat needs an SPD sooooo bad
Yeah I actually made a suggestion awhile ago for Ryu’s Ultra II that I thought would’ve been cool. Since I dont think he should get Joudan Kick and it seems unlikely he will, I thought it’d be cool if his Ultra II actually started off with the Joudan, which would then wall bounce the opponent back into the Metsu SRK, all in cutscene fashion. Pretty identical in use to what you just suggested and just kind of a cool reference to his SF3 gameplay, while also distinguishing his 2nd ultra further from Gouken’s first.
Regarding Superyo1000’s remark that Ken can’t FADC into full SRK ultra (besides on counter hit) so you would assume Ryu can’t either…I’d like to believe that, but unfortunately SF4 has a ton of shit that you would assume in regards to Ken/Ryu balance, that actually isn’t how it turned out. Obviously if Metsu SRK has the same juggle setups as Metsu Hado, it will be a terrible choice both from a balancing standpoint and because it would render Ultra I obsolete. But the devs seem to be in love with SF4 Ryu enough that I could still see it happening.