Alioune said that U2 hits crouching characters too.
Welp there goes Ultra 1. Probably still useful in a few matches where Ultra 2 is unecessary just for the slight damage increase but otherwise it just doesn’t have the utility that U2 does.
I’ll use Ultra 1 in certain matches where it really doesn’t matter which one or I just really want the damage, but for the part U2 all the way.
Of course I might use u1 just to be different.
You plan to stick with Sagat then Emb?
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lol. I was never gonna drop him completely in the first place. I just wasn’t gonna main him. And right now I still plan on dividing my time equally between Gouki, Dudley and Sagat. I don’t think you can “main” a character in a game with a large roster and expect to do ok. You need a back-up IMO. Plus everyone in SFIV was hella boring save like 5 or so chars. Super looks more fun so why limit myself to just one top tier?
st. HK xx AS, st. HK xx AS, st. HK xx AS, st. HK xx AS, TU perhaps?
You’re forgetting that st.HK has massive pushback… probably more like st.HK xx AS, st.HK xx TS.
St.Hk is only special cancellable on the first hit, so if you attempt St.Hk xx AS > St.Hk <-----only the 2nd hit will connect
Watch Alioune’s video again and you see you can connect s.rh, AS, s.rh (full hit). So theoretically, you can s.rh, AS, s.rh, TU/TS/TK.
Guys I think the new BnB with AS should be cr.LK, cr.LK, st.HK AS, cr.HK. Sagat now has a good way to hit-confirm into an untechable knockdown, one of his few weaknesses in vanilla?
the angry scar will make other players angry, move has so much uses! angry scar = angry opponents. Should add angry eye patch to add further insult to this.
Ultra 2 doesn’t seem that bad, it’s got a bit of utility, full screen punish, that’s awesome and it shares the same sort of setups as ultra 1 as well plus more, sure you lose a bit of damage but hey, more setups.
i’m excited to try out the new sagat!
its funny how all the people that were complaining so much about his nerfs are starting to see that he’s not going to be that bad.
it really seems like he’ll be able to be top 3.
Well, they nerfed his retardness and buffed his godness basically.
If you’re good with your execution and timing, Sagat just got a bit more dangerous with his new tools.
If you’re a crap player who only wants to bandwagon Sagat, in vanilla you might get some wins, in Super there’s no way you can get any easy win with Sagat with lackluster skill.
Did the damage in Alioune vid on tiger shots look low to you too, guys?Did they nerf them?
People seem to forget that Sagat lost 2 of his most dangerous tools.
Without trade/ultra and stand LK cancel, he probably wouldn’t have made top 10 in SF4. Definitely not top 5. He’s lost BOTH of those.
Now he’s gained the ability so sacrifice meter to hit-confirm an ultra off a point-blank CH… that absolutely doesn’t replace trade dp ultra or stand LK cancel.
He also has the ability to power up his next uppercut and freeze time so instead of just doing hit-hit-hit-DP, he now has to do hit-hit-use-meter-hit-DP. So… he uses meter… to get an extra normal attack in before doing a SF4-damage DP… and you think that makes him BETTER?
LOL.
Sure, he will have some badass new combos/tricks… but if anyone thinks that he’s better than his SF4 incarnation because of Angry Scar, then you never really understood why Sagat was the best in SF4 in the first place.
He’s going to be trickier. He’s going to require a bit more skill to use now. He will still be an excellent character… but he’s not at the level SF4 Sagat was.
But he doesn’t have any kind of mix up after the untechable knockdown so it’s a waste really. Unless tiger knee can cross up on all characters.
Safe-jump OS TU, perfect j.short cross to make reversals whiff, etc.
He can still trade to ultra… he only lost 1 tool
I think your completely wrong , Sagat in SF4 was a powerhouse without trade to ultra and standing lk cancel. You sound like you dont main Sagat .
The possibilities with the new AS are endless, especially the hit confirm into sweep.The juggle posibilities… Dangerous stuff, i think you took the wrong idea of the video. Alioune didnt post the CH Hk. to AS to ultra as a new BnB hese just showing the possilibities. Dont know why you use it in your argument like any high level sagat will be looking to hit confirm a counter hit hk to full ultra. Your comparing the damage he does and the damage anyone does to SF4 . This is a different game , there are damage nerfs to the WHOLE cast , its not SF4.
The fact your saying without trade ultra and stlk cancel he wouldnt be TOP 10 in street fighter 4 shows me how much you know…Plus you havent even played the game , tomorow hopefully Im gonna test sagat out and come back here with some personal notes maybe a video or too .
But Im actually curious. I think sagat in SSf4 is not particularly better then Sf4, but I think with the right ability can be made to be better per say in the new game. Depending on the ability of the player of course. But please do tell me , what made Sagat the best in Sf4 in the first place? trade and st lk cancel is definately the wrong answer.