Sabin SF4 Japan Q/A - match of the day: Barfights II

http://www.trftrf.com/event.html

Says tomorrow is a 2vs2 team event for SFIV at 6pm JST?

The TRF thing is an intermediate event (below 30k PPs) which technically you qualify Art but seems to me better to steer clear.

Random 3on3 at a Shirone Chance saturday (22nd) at 8. Niigata I guess that’s pretty far. Format might be a good chance to get a few more tourney games in though.
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/44889/1246522125/724
http://www.ams-chance.com/

There’s a random 2on at Kumagaya Magician in Saitama on August 29th. Headquarters for some of the “boys”.
http://magician.kitunebi.com/

A-cho has a 3on on Sept 19th. Kyoto so that’s really far but their events usually have tough competition.
http://a-cho.com/ac.html

I know ST ain’t your thing anymore but X-mania is on sunday at Mikado.
http://xmania10.web.fc2.com/

i’m sure i’m not the only one extremly interested in what that honda did to combat sim’s anti-air’s. i’m sure the US honda community would be forever greatfull for some insight, because atm we are under the impression that you just gotta get lucky as all hell to win this matchup.

oh and ignore 2ch, my understanding is that 2ch is their equivalent of our 4ch… and would you really waste your time arguing with /b/tards? i mean there is a 99.9% chance they are just talking shit to get a rise out of you.

Unless you’re one of those “average” players who beat him, I wouldn’t talk.

Here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055648717

If ya end up going its upstairs in xgc.

From what I saw on the stream, it’s not like Akimo did any tricks. They were normal jump ins and his normals beat his FK anti-air. I do remember that the attacks were different based on what angle he’s jumping in so most likely Akimo just memorized all the hit boxes and knew exactly what to use…

Anyway, the videos usually do get released on niconico so hopefully we’ll have the videos to dissect.

FAX Gimoto actually has the highest BP of any Blanka.

I’m pretty sure Mizoteru dropped Chun-li a long time ago. I haven’t seen him play Chun since SF4 was new.

fax almost ocv’d mago’s team on the 5v5

2ch is a japanese message board. Has nothing to do with 4chan.

who the fuck are you?
you sound like a creepy stalker.
play and beat art or shut the fuck up.

… Outside of the fact that 4chan was basically modeled after it.

So who won this TRF tourney anyways? A big name guy or someone we never heard of?

Yo Art what’s up with the Jap Kens? They doing anything different against Sim? :wonder:

This actually made me lol:lol:

Good thread so far, Sabin. Keep is updated so we can live vicariously through you. :wink:

its just culture difference, they cant understand if western likes to messing , joking around.

They took it too serious and interpret it as ignorant and arrogant.

man it was a random as fuck night after i left trf
fuckin went to kabukicho and like…saw a nigerian guy talking to a white girl in japanese and vice versa, bums around the outdoors bum circle sitting right next to hot as fuck girls, hella foos talking to me in english like HEY HEY SEX SEX MAN BIG TITTIES COME TO MY CLUB BRO then i found this manga cafe. id rather stay here than my room in shinjuku lol

yeah i have some troubles with guiles here
they play very similar to u bro so that means you are doing something right lol.
basically they know the spacing a little bit better…they will match my fireballs with booms all day and train me then jump over one of my fireballs. once im down on life it becomes tough to come back as u know lol.

also they do crouching fierce into stand fierce on block? apparently i cant interrupt that and i get counterhit if i do try. not sure tho.

i cant answer #1 and #2 cause i didnt talk to them like that, but the tier list is made by top players so im sure they agree to some extent. but i get the feeling that niggas dont bitch as much about the tiers as we do lol cause they try to work around it and step it up.

as for seth hes like ex sim…better in close and he has jump back fierce which is why i use him

i still see them lose but its not that free…they are psychic with ex green gloves man for real. also they do a lot of advancing and blocking. they have no problem blocking like 20 tigers in a row just to get close that one time…which is all u need to vortex. its still a grueling match but sometimes giefs get too random with ex gloves which is why sagat players might be scared

to be fair top players do that shit for free and its hella time consuming and all niggas do is shit on you anyways so i can understand why they dont do it.

well with sagat players i feel its always 50% the char 50% them,
not to take anything away from mago hes def a skilled player and def godlike, and makes sagat truly look bullshit. thats generally how i feel though but instead of whining i try to learn the match as much as possible.

regardless of how i feel about sagat my answer would be yes. besides mago has been a top player in several other games before this. you still need SOME smarts to win with sagat cause everyon fights him

ive seen mago at bigbox since sbo, even tho in interviews he told me that he was gonna take a break from sf4 heh. not sure about the other guys. its not like i go to bigbox EVERY day, i do other shit besides playing sf4 in japan lolz

ask in person instead of asking on a forum and be proactive…try to get in the casual sessions. ive taken in complete randoms in my house before for hardcore sessions. better to do that than bitch on a forum all day about how x player doesnt wanna help the community when we actually have lives and limited time to write posts. not saying you are doing this but a lot of people do.

played makoto once before sbo but i dont really remember how it went. all i remembered is, he makes me scared to do jump back fierce when he has ex since thats a free ex dive on hit or block hah

also regarding the tokido/ojisan boy match vs makoto…he played perfectly vs them. i know its hard to believe but yea. it wasnt because they didnt know the match i dont think.

hehe i havent seen a xsf cabinet yet but ive seen a mvc2 cabinet here, hella random. of course theyre lightyears behind us tho.

what 50/50 mixups are you talking about? are you talking about ultra setups? cause if so why WOULDNT the japanese use them? you might be getting the wrong impression from vids too.

well as a gaijin that doesnt speak japanese, (ie, my opinion doesnt really mean shit) there are a few theories ive come up with

  1. they come from rich japanese families that can bankroll them np
  2. they are neets (not in school/working), though with the older sf crowd this tends to be less of a problem
  3. japanese arent rich most of them work retail jobs for 900-1000 yen a hour and hate their lives and arcades are another cheap form of entertainment (even though it can be expensive) that allows you to zone the fuck out and not worry about how u hate ur life (karaoke bars, manga kissas, pachinko parlors and game centers all fall into this same category imo)
  4. cant really have gatherings at niggas houses since shit is tiny, so it makes sense to have these kinda meeting areas like arcades and population density is so small etc.

once again, I CAN BE TOTALLY WRONG ON ALL OF THESE POINTS since i dont speak japanese.

i actually alternated between lk/mk slide since if im close enough i get a free b. mk yoga flame combo in her recovery but thanks, lol. he hella randomed me out with hail mary ex seismo at the end into ultra but i should have seen that coming. im getting better at grinding this match out in japan since ive played some good vipers but its still tough.

no prob sorry to sound like a dick fyi i thought you were one of those idiots that get hype off online wins my apologies

if i see something memorable ill be sure to post up

nice pic lol, and yeah, Sagatte did get randomed out i was fucking sad, we kicked it afterwards though and i have some pics, i cant post them though she made me swear not to post them on the internet lol, i promised her and i understand why since niggas is savages lol

no idea

ok so check it…i get to shibuya sportsland earlier today before trf nakano and this blanka player challenges me, he has like 75% win ratio so im like wtf ok. after he beats me hes like hi sabin im mizoteru! and he was hella nice guy actually.

dude is the most patient blanka ever but will rush when he needs to. he has ultimate control of spacing and knows when to take risks…start of the match hes turtling like crazy until he has ex meter then uses ex meter intelligently. he also doesnt do the same thing every time. for example, when i got him in a advantageous situation for myself hed start to ex KKK ball outta there…first few times i did it i b. stronged him since i thought that would work 100% but he started doing it behind me, in front of me so id get crossed up and b. strong would miss completely. if he did it in front of me id whiff b. strong and get grabbed for free. SMART STUFF! and godlike zoning too.

50/50 all day in the corner…
i can break all his grabs but it doesnt fucking matter hes right on top of me still
if he gets a grab im in hella 50/50 situation. jab ball to elec in the corner as crossup, of course we all know that, but once i started blocking it, he would change the spacing up on it, by doing a jab ball i think? that hella looked like it would cross me up on wakeup (post throw) but it didnt and i got ticked

at that point im scared and i have to guess hah.

also lands low fwd ultra basically every single time and thats a 1frame link.
grabs a lot, a LOT, even if you tech, hes still on that ass anyways. knows when to walk fwd/slide through fireball games too most of the time and will even use short kick ball to gain a little ground through fireballs. dude is just hella smart.

i lost 9-1 to him before he had to go and i had 6 of those games but guy is just so damn clutch. i was so flustered to run away and try to hit him that when i did block some shit like his ultra, i would completely flub the super and do j. fierce instead haha.

he would do stuff like walkup low fwd, jab, delayed stand fwd (the double knee for throw break/counterhit bait.

sorry thats all i can remember for now sorry i cant record as id like. id love to record some matches with this guy hes too good, blanka vortex once ur knocked down lol. no wonder why justin gave him mad props and i can see why combo/valle lost to him. No shame in that one.

around $1k for a roundtrip ticket. We in there!?!?

why you so retarded? i gave many japanese players props already, not as gods but i respect their game.
and of course i wil lose games to randoms in japan im trying to learn you dumb fuck and the only wa to do that is by losing. of course i dont like it but it has to be done. pretty much most players in tokyo that are worth a damn tell me to ignore 2ch trolls theyre retarded. when you come out of your house and stop hinding behind a anonymous screen name and challenge me then maybe you can talk shit.

hahaha thank you

hmm thanks fred but all of those are too far. i actually played st for a night last tuesday lol! random ggpo japanese guy challenged me to a match and we went to play at nishi-nippori and wached kurahashi guile play. takodanobaba is very close to me, walking distance basically from shinjuku so ill check it out. thanks for the help. btw 30k bp in japan doesnt mean you suck as i said before. depends on where they play…so i dont mind heading back to trf tomorrow to play in 2on2 i like that area cause i can get on the mic lolol.

this dude broke it down perfectly pretty much. i got off to a bad start and it went downhill from there, good shit to akimo for not letting me get started. im in there tomorrow/next week!

drchaos i havent played dragonboy or any master kens yet. i fought one ken at trf and all i could think is, this nigga aint dr chaos lol. until i fight dragonboy or whomever i seriously think u have that match down better than anyone from playing me so damn much.

Fantastic thread - thanks for taking the time to write and respond about your trip.

I’m planning on either teaching English or convincing my boss to expand the business in Japan.

What sort of culture shock can I expect beyond the usual language barrier and used-panties-in-a-vending-machine (I’m looking at you, Maru) stereotypes?

Good luck on your trip and fuck the haters.

i dont know i was too busy trying to rush down sagat girl. even when they played the finals music at trf like they always do i was too busy getting her phone number and macking it to even bother. thanks to kuni funada for being the wingman on that one. lol lol!!

someone asked about japan boxers.
sorry if i confused u with my english. i said we were one month behind them in sf4 not that japan boxers are one month behind. i still feel the way. of course the average players in japan are generally far better than average players in the usa

will update more tomorrow good night

I was under the impression that the used panties biz has been pretty much phased out after a crackdown. I recall that it was because it promoted date-for-pay amongst students and the government wasn’t having it because of the bad rep it was giving them. I could be wrong, though.

this time of the year is so busy for me with work.Im really trying to make VP

But it seems that the months right before SBO would be the best time to visit Japan for some hyperbolic time chamber training?

Of course rolling out there with you, henry, justin , marn etc would be ideal. but work owns my soul

So when is the best time to go?