Ryu Season 2

Use meter.

Been thrashing around real hard with ryu. Looks like c.mp is really good in footsies during normal game play.

Also, j.heavy , s.mp x2, s.HP , s.hk / mix up vt and super is really good.

Try it.

Ryu should still be played like s1… just the only differences are no oki off f.grab, no inv uppercut and j.lk got nerfed.

Still play your basic Ryu game and you’ll rekt as you normally did.

Just no more cheap stuff and I’m ok with it… guess we just gotta get used to his slower normals.

LOL meter dependant ryu on wakeup.

^Just block makmak!

Any tips for waking up against command grab characters?

Rofl. The “nerfs” Ryu received is nothing compared to what they did to Chun.

You can still bust out opponents’ imperfect block strings. Anything with more than 2 frame gap you can time your DP out. You just cannot mash it out mindlessly after initial blocking. And you are talking about carelessness?

Yeah I know how to block since sf 2.

This is what I have been talking about.

So how many spd ryu receives before getting a single bar?

Best bet is to jump lol but still can be punish

I’m getting so used to stHP->Specials, but seriouslyneed to become a thing even without VT and to work also as MP>HP>

Ryu will be so much more fun

His DP gets stuffed and jabbed out of. What’s worse is he gets thrown out of it.

The stubby normals makes only 2 approaches, jump or fireball. SF2Turbo Ryu was better than this.
Im done with the game its boring me, they sucked out all the fun.

Might be back when the new characters hit.

This has been my issue with SFV Ryu and how Capcom has viewed and made SF:V all together concerning zoning and what they’ve done to their main character.

Ryu’s issue in SF:V isn’t that he can’t do damage, the problem arises in that he has difficulty getting in due to the poor ranged normals that he has, which were also nerfed for S2. Maybe because Capcom probably felt like since he had a fireball, and a Shoryuken that it was okay for Ryu to be stubby. However they seemed to have glossed over the fact that they’ve made one of the worst SF games involving fireball zoning.

It would actually make sense if his normals were stubby, but his zoning capabilities were powerful and a threat to the opponents. Then at the very least, I wouldn’t necessarily have the right to be complaining about a real lack of inability when moving in. This ultimately puts him into a situation where he’s still sort of the jack of all trades but really can’t do anything well, in a game engine that clearly doesn’t benefit what he has always been known for doing.

Why should Ryu always remain a Strong Character in every Street Fighter game? Easy Answer.

Not only is he the Poster Child and one of the most Popular characters, if not the most popular. However because of how his tools are set up, he is arguably one of, if not the most fundamental cored character in the game. This means, that even when he’s strong, his tools only help to inflate his fundamental values, and not like many other characters who will necessarily be using stupid priority tactics that may only involve heavily into one focal point or annoying gimmicks that players simply can’t deal with.

From my perspective, some of, if not the **Best **Matches of Season 1, all involved Ryu…gasp, should we be surprised? Daigo (Ryu) vs Tokido (Ryu) <—I would argue the Ryu vs Ryu match is the best Mirror match in nearly every SF game, Nuckledu (Guile) vs Daigo (Ryu) <---- In my humble opinion the Best Match of Season 1 and (once again imo the Best Two Character Match Up in any fighting game period), etc etc.

This is because when you actually watch these Top Level sets, it actually feels like a legitimate Street Fighter Match where an individual can break the entire fight down and see practically all aspects of what a SF game can bring at the highest levels of play strategically and mentally.

Yes, I know I’ve said this in the past, however Capcom should follow with what Harada the creator of the Tekken series does in his particular fighting game franchise. Harada intentionally wants to make Mishima’s strong in the Tekken games, and when you actually look at the Tier List for practically all Tekken games, the Mishimas have either been Top-Tier or Upper-Tier level quality. This in turn produces positive results because the Mishimas as playable characters carry the fundamental values of how Tekken should be played like.

So because of this, you get to see multiple facets of the game from a strategy level, which makes for more quality matches. It’s like as though Capcom has Michael Jordan (Ryu) in their game and they’re trying to make sure that he’s only mediocre or worst yet, less than that at times. However they’ll make these situational 3 point shooters (characters whom are only really strong at one singular thing) excel at their particular category and many times, too very stupid levels. Let me just say…Get out of here.

In my honest opinion, Combofiend has his finger prints practically all over this game, which I believe has made a bigger impact on SF:V’s gameplay than many might like to believe. Combofiend has always enjoyed SF games where moving forward is the best thing (because that was how he played during his prime years in the competitive scene), and not necessarily the other archetype or strategies that we’d all inherently like to enjoy.

Could I be wrong here? Sure, it’s just speculation, however when you look at the clear lacking character archetypes in SF:V and the prominence of an aggressive play, it to me at least screams out what Combofiend enjoys.

So this to me is one of the reasons why we’re left with a game engine that entirely doesn’t benefit how Ryu may have been intended to be played by Capcom, but he is somehow still being forced too in a way in SF:V. Fireballs are nerfed, and zoning is nearly non-existent, while Dragon Punches have been nerfed, directly hurting the normal basic style that Ryu uses. Then you make some of his normals have less range, and you’re just putting him into a situation where he really can’t excel in my opinion.

I’m holding out, but hoping that this isn’t SF:4 Ryu all over again. Came in strong during Vanilla, but ended up at the backseat burner by the end of USF4. Will this be SF:V Ryu’s fate? I sincerely hope not.

Season 2 has me turned off quite a bit, and I do play it, but definitely not as much as I did in S1.

Watch this video, and then go test out some different scenarios in the lab.

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Pardon the mishap at 2:07. I’d intended to showcase Laura’s ST.LK~HCB+LK on Block, not Hit. I accidentally punched in the incorrect clip. Please do note that LP DP will still escape that Tick Throw on Block, without Reversal timing.

Also, my Frame Data from Oki Calculator was out-of-date, and I didn’t realize her Command Throw was 5F, now.

The point is, the shit works against throws.

I watched it last night! Good stuff! Definitely will test things.

You made the video then? 'Cause I was wondering about the music :smiley:

The music is Pat Martino - Blue Bossa. Arguably the greatest jazz guitarist of all time.

Thanks!

Oh man i feel like at a total loss with Ryu now. I cant seem to win any matches consistently anymore i feel like Ryu (or me) is getting out footised by characters Ryu should be able to keep out with normals. In short it feels ryu has no strong sides anymore i cant play defense but i cant go in either.

I hear you, man. I’m not a dedicated player, but I improve consistenly, if slowly, over time. However! I had gone from Super Gold to Ultra Silver and back TWICE since the patch! The good news? I stopped caring about LP altogether :stuck_out_tongue: