You can see AA lp into ex.hado in the vs Cody vid.
I heard t hat both Sags and Ryu have all of their options off of trade in the current build.
Two hit SRKs have a often tendency to whiff the second hit near max range, it’s quite possible this ends up as a nerf.
Maybe the two hit shoryu is to prevent trade dp into ultra? The first hit of it doesnt pop them up and the second hit he is off the ground so he cant shoot an ultra right away?
The two-hit dp sounds like a damage nerf with added application in regards to focus breaking. In all likelihood, only the first hit can be FADC’d.
If he traded, he’d still be on the floor to Ultra.
Actually, I doubt his fierce DP will focus break, since the second hit happens well up off the ground.
Possibly it will hit really tall characters but I doubt it would break focus in Ryu vs Ryu (for example).
We shall wait and see…if it really does break focus on all opponents that is going to be pretty nasty indeed.
My guess is that the first hit should be invincible and the 2nd hit will still trade, that’s how it works right? When Ryu trades in SF4, it’s when his DP is already headed upward and does 70 damage only. You never see Ryu trade when his fist is beside his chest for 160 damage, well unless I’m mistaken. It looks like they may have just taken the 2 hit EX SRK and removed the flash to replace the look of his new fierce SRK. As for trading into Metsu SRK, it might be possible if Ryu players dash first and then attempt Ultra just like Viper when she trades. Just talking about the possibilities though, nothing is given.
two hits is a nerf. there are advantages and disadvantage but 1 hit>2 hits.
I can’t see them taking away trade ultra for Ryu w/o doing likewise for Sagat.
2 hit srk could be a nerf or a buff, depending on the damage and other properties of the move. You gotta assume it ends up being a nerf, though, since there’s no reason why Ryu’s srk would get any better.
Probably does less damage as an anti-air, since it has a really good range that you can’t safe jump.
BIG FUCKING SIGH No Joudan Sokutou Geri, though.
…not that he really needed it. I’m still gonna roll Ryu and defy the odds with Metsu Shoryuken. IT WILL BE COMBOABLE SOMEHOW :smith:
Here’s a clip or Ryu using his 2-hit DP as an AA. At 1:01 he is clearly standing on the ground for both hits.
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nah, his second hit is about as high as kens 3rd hit on his fierce dp…off ground
Really? To me it looks like how his current EX SRK works right now in SF4, minus the flash, range, and height of course. And that can be FADC’d after the 2nd hit into Ultra. For now I think it could go either way, too bad we don’t have footage of people just going through the old set ups to see what works and doesn’t work.
I just went through the footage frame by frame and both Ryu’s feet are flat on the ground for many frames after the 2nd hit lands.
Almost 12 hours ago since you uploaded it, but man-o-man, that was pretty funny. “SAGAT OVERPOWERED! BULLSHIT!”
Well he does change poses between the two hits. Is that second pose airborne? Even if it looks like he’s on the ground, he might not be.
I trimmed the clip and slowed it down. The quality is not great, but you can see that after the 2nd hit, he’s still on the ground with both feet flat. It looks like it acts exactly like his EX.
i really hope its not true, god forbid ken has 1 freakin move thats better then ryu’s…:annoy:
It looks like the same way Akuma’s SRK works.
the first link didn’t work, so here’s the new one.
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I am mad about how Metsu Shoryuken looks. Yeah, I’m being picky so what. This is the move that scarred the chest of a man who is 7 foot 5 inches and looks to weigh about 300lbs and knocked him unconscious. This move should have hit the chest area alot more I feel. They shoulda had Ryu connect with the chin check for the first hit then do a gut punch and drag his fist violently upwards through the torso.