You can also just do crouch then stand lk or lp.
You see people do fake fireballs all the time in ST. Crouch, stand up, press st.strong or st.short or whatever.
Ryu needs some shoes! He will kick harder
how did this thread about a perfect character become 52 pages long?
42 of those pages are joke threads like ‘let his fireballs shoot fireballs’
And Ryu isn’t perfect. A tad OP, and hella good, but not perfect.
Really? I think that there are 42 pages of jokes like the one you quote above suggest that there really isn’t anything that could be done to Ryu to improve his game overall. He’s incredibly balanced on the whole. 
Many of his moves have high priority and his pokes are above average with good reach. More than likely, the extra Ultra will just give him more ways to catch enemies unawares, and keep him fresh in Super. Does he need it? I don’t really think he does, but it probably won’t affect his game dramatically. If I see more improvements on Ryu, who is in my opinion the best overall character in the game, then who will be the standard by which other characters are improved and tweaked? Sagat? :bgrin:
Anyway, I didn’t mean to jump you. I think he’s OP as well since srk (with fadc) is such a versatile move. I actually wish they would give his light srk at least as much recovery as Fei’s firekick.
give us evil ryu and evil ken
What’s wrong with him?
he doesn’t have a ex- kick that wallbounces and he doesn’t have a 60 - 70 % stun super fireball
The fact that you’re probably joking and even still, he will be getting at least one of those things in Super, speaks volumes.
Nothing. That’s kind of the point. There’s nothing bad about him, and nothing broken about him. Whatever he gets in Super only really needs to be there to keep him from going stale in the face of everybody getting new stuff, not making him inherently better or worse.
There’s everyone’s favorite word, “broken” again. No, Ryu isn’t broken in that he doesn’t have anything that’s a win button. However, everything he has is either really good or the best in its category in the game. I’m tired of listing it all again, I don’t know why I should have to keep doing this, but when one character is really good or the best at everything and not so good at nothing, collectively, that’s why he’s arguably the best in the game. He doesn’t have one attack that is unquestionably overpowered, but he’s also not “perfectly balanced” as so many people mistakenly like to repeat.
There’s two basic ways for a character to be really well balanced: Either they have something about them that is really good, as well as weaknesses that must be worked around…OR…they can have nothing that is either really good or really bad and just be solid all around. SF4 Ryu is neither of these because everything he has is really good and he’s got no weaknesses to balance him out.
I’m a bit confused here…how is ryu superior to sagat aside from walk speed?
Kara DP -> Sagat, not ryu.
Special with GREAT priority that breaks armor, hits TWICE, is kara-able, works as an anti air, replaces a forward jump, and is safe on block.-> Sagat, not ryu.
Standing normal anti air into ultra -> Sagat, not ryu.
Health advantage -> Sagat.
Damage output advantage -> Sagat.
Reach advantage -> Sagat.
What am I missing?
Hair advantage -> Ryu
Ryu has better speed, combo-ability/hit confirm-ability, pokes, and footsies.
c.mk > *
yes that why ryu ios considered to be the TOP tier of this game and that why 25 of the best 50 biggest bp japanese player are using Ryu…
Oh shit, no, that sagat…
Ryu is good, but not OP sagat is really good and have some match up that make him a little bit OP.
Ryu has better depth perception since he has both eyes.
Anyways, of course sagat is better than ryu, but I also think that ryu is just a little too strong…I mean, prof21 had some points…seriously, tell me a single weakness ryu has?
Anyways, I wouldn’t nerf anything except his dp trade into ultra (same for sagat, balrog bla bla bla)…you shouldn’t get more damage for fucking up your timing.
The one nerf i would make is the hit box on c.mk. Its retarded that c.mk is a better AA than nearly everyone in the rest of the cast has. The fact he can do UNDER ultras is wrong.
Guys fake Hadouken is in the game. This is what you do…
- QCF
- Yell, “HADOUKEN”
- ???
- Profit
I want his step forward kick from third strike and shin shoryu ultra.
wow thats lame.
also capcom should do something about random the light shoryoken spammers. Its not like those scum bags beat me, they are just annoying. They are all a bunch of scrubs who dont have the ability to hit a uppercut without mashing it random