Ya, even Justin blew me up lol, other ppl and saying I’m salty and irrevalent. Rose being good makes people that angry?
Who the fuck thinks Rose is still viable?
People that dont play her.
People still falling for/challenging/not taking U2 chip.
Nah, Justin is my homie, we’re just always at the opposite end of the spectrum with regards to balance changes. i just think hes competely wrong again lol
What a sad joke…
Okay that it, they might as well not release a patch if this is how they they handle Rose.
It’s not just they these buffs are mediocre at best that I find so insulting, it’s the fact that all other low tier characters and better (I’m looking at Ryu) get the buffs they need.
Can’t wait till a new fighting game is released, so I can focus on that instead of the depressing fact that Rose doesn’t get what she deserves.
I hate to have to say it but everyone in here needs to go outside take a breather and move on. If you don’t like playing it then don’t, move on to a new game. Or wait til the patch drops and try it out.
I’ve actually been listening to themes of the new characters in umvc3…the themes are not bad at all!!! 
They listened to whatever we said.
And then they twisted words.
I never thought they can mess up a Rose buff that bad to make it to a useless buff.
But that EX Soul Reflect is just… a useless buff. goodness gracious.
Anyway, in alpha version she already got over buffed right?
She got buffs that actually helped out her game a bit.
To take things into account, what is this EX reflect going to do, we can ex reflect on wake up to instantly reflect meaty fireball, because we’re invincbile.
I mean I understand why they did it, so we can beat Guile even worse than we already did, to be able to beat Ryu and Sagat.
But that’s not where we needed it. argh.
change that “projectile invulnerability” to a “real invulnerability” and I’m not asking for anything anymore.
You seem easily satisfied.
I’m the last person to complain about a buff, because I’ve learned that Capcom always shafts her. She was shafted from Vanilla -> Super, except that all of everything that was nerfed was just shadowed by U2. But this shit is ridiculous. I was fairly jovial on how Capcom decided to approach her Alpha buffs, however, Beta buffs had not followed suit.
What the fuck is this? Buffing shit that wasn’t hardly even a problem?
Only thing is now, Rose is almost impossible to beat in the fireball game :/.
Basically, I thought that from Version Alpha, they started to be on the right track, and those were decent buffs. It just went downhill from there.
Because recall this; this location tests are players that test out characters and tell them what to change. I’m sure there aren’t any dedicated Rose players that actually knows what Rose needs and tells Capcom to change that. I’m sure it’s just some random Japanese player who felt bad for her and decided to play her for 10 minutes to see how each move works on SURFACE level, and doesn’t know what Rose’s necessities were.
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[*]I see where they’re going with this Reflect buff, but I can take an educated guess on why they decided to buff that overall all things; and that bold is exactly why.
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If an EX move that starts up at 8f (making it completely useless against safe jumps) and has pathetic range (making it not even worth mashing out in blockstrings) will satisfy you, then I’d say you’ve been playing Rose a bit too much. Either way though, it’s not happening seeing as Crapcom clearly doesn’t care about this character.
But unfortunately fireballs were never a problem for Rose - rushdown is. Capcom in their infinite wisdom decided to buff a part of Rose’s game that was never an issue while blatantly ignoring the part that was. Brilliant.
They buffed it so that active frames come out @frame 5; AKA “Shotreflection” starts up at frame 5 now.
If they made it TRULY invincible until frame 7, it wouldn’t be so bad as a reversal move. It wouldn’t be great, but atleast now, Balrog would have to think twice before jabbing me on my wake up.
Right now, where it stands, I saw where they’re going with the buff, because it was unrealistically hard to use that move in a real match to actually reflect, collectively making it a useless move. But it just ended up being a wrong buff that SHOULD anger Rose players. Other buffs had some uses in every match up (Alpha changes, read em again). These buffs might as well have not happened. That’s how useless they are.
not really.
all the reflect got 2 hitboxes: 1 for fireball, and 1 for charater. the frame data for the fireball are not the same.
look at that frame data from ae:
it has a start up of 13 to hit a charatere but can reflect from the 10 frame.
It’s the same for ex reflect ( 8 start up, 7 startup for fireball.) they buff the fireball start up to 5 so that will be (8, 5)
Soul Reflect Medium Punch HL 50 100 20/30 Su 13 3 25 -7 D
, 10~19f , E
its funny because i know for a fact jwong hates the games he’s playing now so why does he give a shit
Are there any top players that actually think AE is balanced that DON’T use yun yang and fei long? Any top players actually openly saying they think AE is fine as is? Fuck AE. Ono can kiss my fat ass. They made it broken on purpose? Fuck off and join the rest of the rose haters and eat a dick.
Ok i think i’m good for awhile. Got that off my chest. Time to wait and actually play the game before making judgement. Here’s to hoping for
a.) Final buffs
b.) Hidden buffs
c.) The whole cast sans Rose getting hidden nerfs(lol a guy can dream can’t he?)