If you guys want to do this on XBL tonight, just let me know. I have a mic, and I think people should really try and mic up in case there are suggestions other players have over your own gameplay. I think its productive.
After 3-4 hours of editing, converting, uploading, and organizing, I have all the matches from the XBL Training Session available for viewing. I put them unlisted, so random viewers can’t watch them.
I’m going to list them in alphabetical order, similar to how I did with the PSN Training Session videos. Because of this, don’t just look for all the matches under your name. Other matches that you participated in, may be under someone’s else name as well. I hope that with these videos, we can learn from our mistakes, and provide feedback to others that need it. Enjoy!
Christermime (Rose-related videos):
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DJ Aquazition (Rose-related videos):
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DJ Aquazition (Non-related videos):
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IamtheCory434 (Rose-related videos):**
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Lose-Control (Rose-related videos):
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sksksksksk222 (Rose-related videos):
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sksksksksk222 (Non-related videos):
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**Zero Adept Nova (Rose-related videos): **
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Thanks sk, very much appreciated!
I got all perfected and such by you. Very much unappreciated. haha. You’re pretty killer I’m looking forward to fighting you again.
@ sk: Dear god, that had to have taken a long time to upload.
Also good games to everyone on the SRKLive stream yesterday, including a certain someone trollin’ me with Blanka and youtube links. I had way more fun than I should have. Let me know the the next time you guys get together
Thanks for uploading these, sk, it’s interesting (and a bit embarrassing) to watch all the mistakes I make from an outside perspective, haha. It’s nice to be able to check out the other player’s styles more in depth without having to worry about getting smashed in the face, too.
Thanks! Hit me up sometime if you want to play some more. It was great playing all of you, I really enjoyed it.
Questions:
How often do you guys use Forward Lunge HK as an anti-air? Seems like it may be a good choice when you need the extra range. Sksk tagged me and others with it. Is it useful against other chars?
Also I noticed Lose-Control used st. cl mk after a pressure string > drill to push sksk back enough to do a correctly spaced slide to cr. mp > drill. I like that. Is st. cl mk immune to cr. mp btw?
Comments:
In my first match with IamTheCory, I used slide a lot in the first round. In the 2nd round he attempted to do something about it with focuses but it never worked out for him. He either got drilled or thrown, is this tactic not effective because slide is too godlike? lol.
In TrinityRagnarok’s and my game, he used st. HP to beat my cr.mp. I see that Rose steps back very quickly before the scarf comes out. I really like this option if the opponent is predictable on a cr. mp punish against drill attempt. It looked so well placed. Check it out at 1:50.
What I also like is on way too deep drills, using the BnB string (cr.lp, cr. lk, cr. lp, drill) as a punish. I need to get more in the habit of using cr. lp as a punish opener instead of relying too heavily on cr. mp since it has a longer startup.
One thing I know I need to work on is not doing unnecessary Ex drills, I panic button them a lot on wake up and it usually costs me dearly. I also do unsafe lp. sparks at jump in range and often unsafe slides with no back dash to salvage them. I often waste my EX, I hardly ever get a chance to use Super in my ranked matches. Usually too many wake-up EX drills and random EX sparks, I think. I also jump too often, I’m starting to see why this is bad. If I’m in the air, the opponent will know where I will for that whole duration. Granted, jumping away has been a good strategy for me often especially if I land a air HP.
christermime: I see you suffer from some of these same things. One too many jump-ins, sparks at jump-in range and un safe slides. We need to play smarter!
Rose is definitely not a character you can auto pilot as small mistakes can be cause big life losses. I haven’t seriously studied any other fighting game and aimed to improve (Alpha 2 dhalsim a tiny bit), so these autopilot mistakes have been haunting me in my journey. I think this is why I like Rose because I hear she is based on the fundamentals, I like the rise to the challenge to learn these things but I’m not sure if I’m identifying the fundamentals truly yet. Spacing, zoning, mind games, etc… is Rose’s strongest asset in fundamentals her zoning and spacing capability?
I’m still struggling with recognizing what the opponent is capable of on wake-up and with EX in many situations, I think I just need to learn a bit more about the cast.
I watched many of the matches. But will check out more later and try to give more feedback. Thanks a lot sksk for the uploads.
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6:07 , 6:22 , 7:39 I only use it in anticipation of EMPTY jump ins over fireballs. its not in rose’s favor if it trades. This is to avoid people who like to empty jump at you and tag you with an srk of some sort if you’ve been stuffing them alot with slides when they are jump ATTACKING you and in their recovery frames upon landing. I dont know if st.hk has better range, but i just like how the soul piede knocks people down =].
I pretty much use her Soul Piede as an AA only if I’m not within range to do c.HP, and I’m at the perfect range to use it such that it’s not a risk. As Fury said, if it trades, normally it won’t be in her favor. If you’re able to hit the opponent with it as they’re in the air, you could even juggle that into Super if you have the meter to do so.
Glad to see the videos are helping!
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If the PSN rose training section ever starts up I’m in. Any PSn roses wanna show me the ropes?
Are you sure it was cs.mk? Can you tell me which video I used this in?
Edit: Nvm I watched the videos again. It was far mk. I think it should stuff the c.mp.
Oops, yeah, far mk, my bad.
No problem at all, I was just confused haha.
It’s been a decent bit since I’ve played Street Fighter seriously, my Rose used to be average at best, but after playing 3 days straight of online, I see that it’s gone to trash.
I want to grind it out over 2 weeks for the Upstate SC tourny if anyone doesn’t mind playing me and showing me what I’m doing wrong.
PSN is the same as the name, it’s summer, so I’ll usually be on at night, I live on the East Coast.
i don’t think these online sessions go on anymore but i can take over for the psn part.