CH C.LK to U2 is very hard. A lot harder than her usual 1-framers.
In training mode my success rate is like 20%
Thanks guys I kinda figured they wouldn’t be much to go on… thanks none the less…
So did anyone try the focus crumple, lk/lp, dash under?
I forgot how to do it, was in a vid of Pasqual once. Thought it was slide he used, but couldnt reproduce. Wasn’t it corner only?
It might be useful after a dizzy. But the flipside is that if its corner only it puts her out of that corner that gives her so many extra damage opportunities
Well I never saw the Pasqual Vid actually i just checked all of his and doopliss n didn’t see it… but if you use slide it leaves you at a disadvantage and it’s not a corner thing either, you can do it anywhere on screen… The reason you probably couldn’t reproduce is because you have to wait until the person knee touches the ground and puts them in the airborne state then you use the lp or lk to activate the flipback and dash under it… I was trying it after trying to make my rose more a little more tricky after having play a good seth and good sakura
BTW did anyone know that if you S.Spiral geif in the corner and you dash quickly you could cross him up?
Too bad 360 works in both ways 
Yeah but a neutral jump might be a good mixup…or cl.st.mk
true, but I do think these cross-unders are better against chars that screw up their inputs due to your shenanigans. It would work against 360, but you wouldnt need a setup as it would’ve worked normally as well. If zangief decides to reversal normally, he would lariat and it would still work for him
If he decieed to block you may get lucky as you would against other chars, but for him thats just one of many choices he can make
Hey look we can hash out some theory fighter if you guys do msn…
add me at elmo640@hotmail.com, forums take to damn long
And then I wondered “Why the hell would I want to corner myself against Gief?” And then I wondered further “When will I ever put Gief in the corner to begin with?”
Stick to zoning in this one. And I finished with theory fighter long ago. Save your sanity.
Mixup!!!
Ok guys I dare anyone to say this is not viable… the video will come like tomorrow…
AFTER A FOCUS POINT BLANK
DASH BACK ACTIVATE ULTRA
DASH FORWARD ST.LK
DASH FORWARD AGAIN
and you would have dashed underneath the person and they wouldn’t have touched your orbs yet and it would be soo quick that the person may block the wrong way and land you a full combo… excellent after a dizzy for that all important reset
As a side tip… if you dash a little later… you can stay on the same side
ANNNDDD YOU GET THE VACUUM EFFECT SO YOU CAN LAND ANOTHER FOCUS OR JUST A CHIP KILL AS THEY ARE LITERALLY HELPLESS…
and you can even then soul throw for a further mixup etc…
TEST IT OUT GUYS!
Looks hard on paper to hit a c.lk (which has to be done close) without getting on of the orbs to it first, but if it works due to timing then it could be another handy setup for reverse orbs
It’s not viable.
Why would you waste orbs on a 50/50 mixups when you have sure damage there + orbs?
yeah.
Hooray for another person who doesn’t listen… Firstly it’s really easy the timing works itself out as the orbs never align to hit the person so no worries bro… secondly if you dizzied a person scaling is going to kill you for orbs that don’t do much in the first place and you don’t loose your orbs when you dash underneath… it’s better than they getting blocked and you left with nothing and I already said it’s for a reset so you can maximise on damage… geez test shit before you post shit
I agree that a reset might be beneficial. On the other hand, how many times do you get to stun someone with Rose? If I ever happen to do this, I usually dont have Ultra as I’m likely schooling him.
I stunned a zangief the other day. 
If you get a stun, focus cr. fierce spiral is max.
save the orbs.
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yep, and like acku, i probably won’t have a U2 either, i always like to prefer saving U2 as a deterrent in the back of the opponents mind and use it if need be, its definitely something ill consider when im trolling on someone though and if i had a situation with dizzy and U2 :P, usually is the case with Anton ;]
Ok I think I see what type of players are here… I’m not telling you, as soon as you land a focus DO IT… all i’m saying if you know you did a big combo and it dizzied the person and they are a good player and they have a fair amount of life left DO IT… it resets it mixes them up, it’s not hard to execute and it can win you the game… Fury you know well with someone like velicoso that you want to give them the chance to come back… it’s not a troll it’s a situational tool… stop shooting things down instead put it into the back of your mind as something u never knew existed and improve and make your character a little different… someone did it on a stream and clutched out a game alot of ppl would be on it like white on rice but hey do your thing guys…
I think someone needs to not take it so serious and just be happy more crap was found for U2. Viable or not.
What probably (and most likely does) screws this over for being a good gimmick mixup is the fact this game favors reversals and mashers.
Ok so that’s what i’m saying… if they mash and we conterhit we get 400-500 dmg… We can also block and bait a mash and let them run into the orbs or we can cl.st.mk on ppl like abel and we get a counterhit add a cr.fp and spiral plus 2 orbs we get 402 (432dmg w/ CH)…
A combo with the mixup can lead to about 719 (785…w/CH)
J.HK, Cr.HP, EX Spark, Focus LV2 Hit, Dash Back,Ultra, Dash Forward,lk/cl.st.mk(works well) Dash Under… Cr.HP, Spiral…Plus 2 Orbs
They block wrong and big damage is ours… I hate ppl that can’t accept that everything has it’s uses whether abstract or not…