i didn’t give a shit about Requiem for a Dream either. Keith David and “Ass to Ass” guy were the only interesting parts to me.
EDIT: before people start crying about “kids trying to be cool over the internet,” i own the movie. i bought it through word of mouth, and only watched it once. don’t really care about druggies lives…
I don’t see how you could improve upon the original Robocop. It’ll be a CG-fest and won’t look nearly as good as an actor in a Robosuit, and there’s a damn good chance Kurtwood (Clarence Bodicker) Smith is not going to be in this movie. Even stop-motion ED-209 is better than CGi.
The original was great. I don’t see the point to remaking it just like I don’t see the point to remaking movies that were already good. But I guess I can sort of understand why they would (outside of money). It’s been 23 years since the first Robocop and much of the technology used in these types of movies has changed. A Robocop movie now would be significantly different from the original in terms of special effects. The stop motion and costumes would be replaced with CGI, although I can imagine them utilizing an actual costume for specific shots in the movie.
Still, a stop motion ED-209 has the charm that a CGI version wouldn’t. And I’m not opposed to CGI as I love it when it’s done right (Ironman, Transformers, etc.). I’m sure ED-209 would look great, but the stop motion version was just creepy.
Wow, is that such a wrong comparison. I laughed at him because of the combination of his crying and the fact that his arm needed to be amputated since he consciously fucked it up himself. He was even warned by his friend about his arm but I guess the character continually fucking up his own life is supposed to move me.
If someone makes a mistake and it ruins their life but they continue to make mistakes, I’m not going to care. If someone makes a life ruining mistake but they are trying to better themselves and fix that mistake then maybe I can root for them. Requiem for a Dream was just filled with the former.
As for the shock therapy thing, it’s just inhumane.
Even if you don’t like CGI they could at least get rid of Dick’s gorilla arms as he’s falling out of the building in the ending. Then again it’s like one last laugh for the movie.
EDIT: Actually, that wouldn’t be the last laugh. The last laugh is when you watch the credits and find out the theme song title for the entire movie is “Show Me Your Spine.” then you get to sing that to the music.
Anyone see the Criterion Edition Robocop that was released on DVD several years ago? Complete uncut X-rated version, I don’t remember everything that was cut out but it was mostly the excessive gore and more scenes of Murphy getting even more fucked up when he was shot down.
"His name is Dick… Dick JONES!!! He from OCP, he runs the cops! You’re…a…ack cop!
Film in MI because Detroit is so empty now that they can get away with stuff while throwing in some landmarks. Why force a gritty feel when you can just shoot in an already gritty place. Plenty of abandoned everything and empty streets to work with. High tech stuff can be filmed elsewhere of course.
Only use CG on Ed-209 when absolutly needed. If Nolan can get that batmobile made I have faith that someone can at least make an Ed with moving arms and what not. For more extreme shit, like the stair well scene, that’s when CG would come in.
GM and Ford have to back this. The catch here is that instead of mocking the gas guzzling beasts of yore, that they mock the electric hippies of today. Ford just made the new Taurus so a radically designed version for the movie would be cool. Give it some dope lights with various low light settings, cameras, etc. Enough ‘cool tech’ that can honestly be seen on a fleet of police cars in the not to distant future. But nothing like an AI running the car, that’s silly, a remote control would be more believable.
With all the cool weapons in development in the world right now, it would be nice to see some of that stuff in the movie. Robocop’s gun is basically legendary so they don’t need to mess with it’s burst fire functionality or big heavy look. Instead, change the gun works. Like this for example [media=youtube]8DRmuljq9yw"[/media]. This electronic gun could directly interface with Murphy. He can change the number of rounds he wants fired.
I’m sure there is a team of writers figuring out what jokes will be the best. So much has changed since the original so it will be excited to see how things are handled.
Robocop was my favorite movie growing up. When I was 6 years old, I watched it everyday and memorized every line and even counted the swear words, just for fun. I’m okay with the remake because it looks like they’re trying to do it the right way but really, the movie did not need a remake. Somehow, it still holds up as futuristic even to this day. Even Robocop’s old ass HUD doesn’t look dated.
My favorite part was when ED-209 debuts and malfunctions. It freaks out and shoots the guy non-stop for THIRTY SECONDS and when it finally stops, someone says “Someone wanna call a paramedic?” The dude looks like hamburger meat already. The X-rated version has that scene go on even longer. I can’t believe they made a kid’s franchise (toys, cartoon) out a movie that is so incredibly inappropriate for children.
Oh, and loved Clarence and Dick Jones.
“Just give me my f*cking phone call.”
After District 9, Avatar etc I think people are less harsh on the idea of using CGI. But I completely understand why Aronofsky wants to use practical effects instead, if the rumor is true. It’s a shame that’s so much of a sticking point- these days I think having a big-time science fiction/action movie with no CGI would actually be good publicity, since it simply isn’t done anymore.
One of my favorite movie scenes of all time is Robocop shooting through the woman’s dress and hitting the guy right in the BALLS. As a kid seeing that, it was HILARIOUS seeing that patch of blood and that guy screaming in agonizing pain.
No Verhoeven/Keshner/Weller = NO DEAL. It’ll also need some old ass Ford Tauruses. You don’t get those, you don’t get my money.
“You look a little out of breath, bitch!”
“Officer Duffy…have a seat.”
“Where is it maaaaaaaade?”
“Louis, Hang it up.”
“Dave…the benzadrine’s got my teeth wiggling. Cut it with scopolamine. Fiver mil…PER!”
“Kaine! Let’s step outside!”
“They’ll fix you! They fix everything…”
Which was created by one mistake becoming more and more desirable, like many preventable cancers. There is no wrong argument here, we’re arguing the same spirit under a slightly different ultimate definition. How do people get lung cancer? Skin cancer? People ‘conciously’ fuck themselves up all the time, but I’m willing to bet that most of your distaste comes solely from drugs.
But then why did you laugh at it?
Also, Aronofsky is rife with stories about people fucking their own lives up. The Fountain, The Wrestler, and Requiem all fit that bill.
P.S. Even though I might come across as an ass right now, I genuinely agree with 99.9% of what you post, fyi. In fact, I’m surprised we can disagree on something.
There are situations I can think of where people contract cancer through their own bad habits, and don’t do anything to improve themselves in that aspect, that I wouldn’t care about them. But would I laugh? I don’t think so. Understand that I’m not laughing at them simply because they’re destroying themselves. I think the crux (hurray I get to use this word) of the matter was that the film just didn’t give me an incentive to care about the characters. They were pretty unlikeable and that combined with the scenes I mentioned made me laugh. Like the shock therapy, I was laughing at her expressions and shaking. Similarly, I laughed at that little boy shaking like crazy in “Exorcist: The Beginning.” The original Exorcist is my second favorite movie of all time so that one was a major let down. :shake:
I do have a twisted sense of humor though. I’ll admit that I do harbor an animosity towards drugs too, but that has waned over the years. I have gone from wanting to federally ban alcohol and helping friends quit smoking/drugs to wanting to legalize marijuana and saying “whatever man, just enjoy yourself just don’t hurt anyone else but yourself.” I’ll never do drugs and I don’t drink but that’s partly because alcoholic beverages really taste like shit to me. Also I want to say that I’m not an unmoving monster. I have cried and gotten choked up to movies before.
I haven’t seen The Fountain or The Wrestler by the way, guess I will eventually. Aside from the acting in Requiem, the other things I liked about the the movie for the right reason was the direction and cinematography. Pi was good for the same reasons so I’m sure the other movies will be interesting to watch as well.
You don’t sound like an ass. You’re just trying to convey your opinion. And agree with me 99.9% of time? Probably wouldn’t stay that way if I gave my direct opinion on video games and comic books.:lol: +1 for Scrubs quote in your signature because it’s one of my favorite shows.
Yeah I definitely like 2. The kid was funny, the RoboCop2 prototypes were hilarious, and Robo-Cain was freaking amazing. I love the shit out of that warehouse massacre. Overall though RoboCop2 is inferior to the original, especially with all that reprogramming bullshit and a weak set of (human) villains/henchmen.
For anyone who is interested, there is a new Robocop comic series that just started. The series takes place after the first movie, and so far it’s pretty good and I think Robocop fans would enjoy it.
Hell they even have a character who is from the WWF.
The comic is written by Rob Willaims (an author from the 2000 AD comic series)