d.hyo :evil:
w00t! Wab’s here
Our copy of ProJus is acting up. It sometimes won’t load if I pick Roberto. I think I burnt a hole in it from picking him too much…
heh. Buy another off Amazon. Did you get your new job? Someone still owes me an explaination on how that fag Kyosuke is top tier. And Roy? I own him for free.
-Red
I got the other job. I just got back from a breakfast. What do you want for your birthday?
Roy is top tier because like I said on GC, his standard combos do a significant amount of damage. That and he’s a solid character. Check out the combo compilation thread.
But in comparison to characters like say, Incho, Roy just out classes her. ProJus is one of those games that’s tiered on how much damage you can do after you land a hit I believe. That’s why Roberto’s tops. However, I believe Kurow is better than Roy. Not only does he do great damage, he can regenerate with a super, and he has excellent run-away capabilities.
W. Diago deals only a slight little bit less than Roberto. Why isn’t he number 2?
-Red
Dunno what I want for the birthday just yet amigo. What about you?
And why is Kyo top? The fag sucks dude!
Kyosuke can be a competitor for top tier imho for the reason that his sweep reaches EVERYTHING. As a tardy counter, you can’t lose with it I suppose.
That and his air combo leads to big damage. 71dmg actually. Only about 10 or 15 less than what Roberto can do.
kyosuke is a top … well i agree …
why ? because he is fast , and a lil deceiving to opponent
a noob’s opinion that kyosuke is a top tier , because he can c.lp , lk qcbx2-hp and do that shits in the air , that’s why some noob thinks he is top in that way .
try this with kyosuke to a guarding opponent … lp,lk,hp,hk,qcb-lp all the time …try this to a newb …see if he can counter ya … he got a lil pressured …just like morrigan in CVS2 rush-tactic , the drill thingie .
but before doing qcb-lp , his hk is able to be countered so you change it to a f-hk , the counter was cancelled by you ! and chain some air-combos !!
oh speaking of qcb-p !! " AKIRA crossover " !!
akira’s qcb-hp is fun !!
Kyosuke is top tier because of his glitch… Which doesnt work on the dreamcast.
Aye, that’s the main reasons Kyosuke is considered top tier. His air throw that hits you on ground and air, his float glitch, and his team/party up techniques in the air glitch. They don’t work on the US DC version though.
He’s still a solid character though. Those glitches also can be very easily worked around (with the exception of air party/team up). Float glitch he’s still can be thrown, and since most people will Cross Cutter as much as possible you just sidestep dash in, and throw. For his air-to-ground, you’ve got the option of anti-airing him.
Besides that though, I don’t see Kyosuke as being much of a threat as say Roberto, Daigo, and Roy. I’m sure those glitches are banned in tourney play as well.
How do u do Kyosuke’s Air Team Super?
I believe it’s qcf+ppk while in the air. I’m pretty sure on it, though I could be wrong.
Like I said, the Kyosuke glitches work only on the arcade versions, and the Japanese version of the game on Dreamcast. In the US release for Dreamcast, it doesn’t work.
forget the glitch … he ain’t anything useful …
Aside from Roberto
I think these people are next in line:
Roy - has alot of opportunities to land a combo. Has the best tardy counter in the game. PERIOD
Momo - has one of the best and easiest combos to land in the game. and she’s small.
Arguable top tiers:
Nagare
Kyosuke(without glitch)
Zaki
Others:
W. Daigo and Daigo - slow… slow… and slow… gets raped by Roy and Roberto.
Iinchyo - Dan of the game. Gimmick character… Once opponent finds your gimmicks… You’re dead.
PS:
I don’t play the game anymore… So I maybe wrong.
Daigo and W. Daigo do NOT get raped by Roberto.
Roberto is, and has been my favourite character since the game’s release (I was an avid soccer player, which led me to him. I figured out the Shining Save damage on my own later).
Reason being is that Daigo/W. Daigo do not get raped by Roberto is a couple of reasons. For one, both do a LOT of damage as it is, so they can hang with Roberto in terms of damage. They’ve got range on Roberto as well, and they can stop a sidestepping Roberto.
Slave can give you tips on that fight. He’s one of the best W. Daigo players I’ve faced
Zaki however, is not good at all. I’ve yet to find anything with her. Some said she’s anti-Roberto, but she doesn’t have much on him. Then again, who knows.
Top Tier:
Roberto
Roy
Daigo/W. Daigo
Kurow
Bottom Tier:
Incho
Tiffany
I’m still a bit lost on why people think Momo is considered top tier. Is it due to the s.lp, c.lp? I’ve messed with her a little bit, but the only thing I found her to be decent with is if you’ve got a super. She can do some nice damage, but her range is complete ass.
In the next week or so I’ll organize a hopefully close to truth tier list. We all know Roberto is top tier, and Roy is as well. Kyosuke is very close, yet I think he’s at the bottom of the top tiers.
Anybody with valid arguements on why they think a character should be top tier, please voice it. I’ll be more than happy to look into it in depth to make some conclusive findings
tiffany low tier no way !!
Yes way.
Her specials have to be charged up to do significant damage.
Her combos, even with supers, do ass for damage. That and you can’t link some of her supers (ie: dive kick super).
Incho is the same, except Incho has almost NO specials worth doing. That and her lecture super is linkable only off of j.hk.
Tiffany unfortunately, is bad. Not as bad as Incho though.
huh !? here dive kick is linkable !!
f-hp,qcfx2-hk
hk, f-df-hk ???
did you see my combo i posted above ??
Daigo/W. Daigo is not top tier because for all the damage he has… he can’t go in…
All of his moves can be tardy countered… and he is too slow.
Believe me a turtling Roberto could raped any Daigo/W. Daigo users.
Zaki is good because… hmmm… I really have no idea why she’s good. But I think she has good zoning characteristics and chips very well. All the Zaki I have faced forced me to attack.
and Momo? You got to be kidding… Momo has alot of combo opportunites and it’s very easy to land combos with her with/without the super. She could beat Roberto because some of her moves are fast enough to break Roberto’s. She has a lot of good jumpins.
If anyone wants some PJ tourney matches… you could ask rppr in Direct Connect… I sold him a vcd of the tournament.
Ciao
Edit:
I could be wrong… because I quit after a new guy defeated me using Hideo(Don’t ask me how).
man i feel like using 3s ken …
Defending W. Diago.
First off, Roberto and W. Diago is NOT an even match. Not by any normal standard. Roberto’s faster, which gives him the edge.
Barring that, the fight is far from impossible and Roberto does not by any means, OWN Diago.
Diago’s roundhouse, hereby called rh has GREAT arc on it, and often times stops a side step Roberto, especially since it’s linkable into a super or a special.
On top of that, Roberto has to be JUST as afraid of taking a hit as Diago. Neither char will tardy counter EITHER char, because a smart player never continues his combo past lp, lp. Roberto is NOT fast enough to hit inbetween Diago’s two lp’s, and can’t hit Diago AFTER his two lp’s because they recover too fast. Robert can’t risk going low to mix up because if Diago’s fast enough to scoot back, he can launch Roberto into a 75 damage air combo without any difficulty at all. And since chip damage is negligable, since you can’t chip ANYONE to death, I can block all day if I so choose. It all comes down to smart throwing, and zoning. If Jew can get his roberto to dash in and stop JUST out of my jab range, he’s got a free air combo, and if I can get him to dash in JUST in my kick range and try and combo me, I have my air combo. The entire match between us is spent dashing and side stepping, trying to bait a counter. I’ll toss out a jab and wait, he’ll toss a jab and wait. It sounds boring and slow, but in the actual game we’re manuvering those char’s around like indy 500 car’s, lots of motion and jab fient’s. Sometimes he’ll shining save to catch me off guard, or kick a soccer ball. Sometimes I’ll jumping RH or toss a fireball in the air. Being fast means Roberto has an easier time with the dash feint game. Being W. Diago’s master means I’m keeping up with him step by step.
I think top tier goes, based on the char’s I’ve seen played:
Roberto
W. Diago
Hyo/D. Hyo
Hinata
Roy
Edge/Nasu
I defend Edge because he’s quick, and I don’t have a lot of comp. He’s mid-tier, but his speed makes him a good Roberto counter char. Nasu has a LOT of fast mix-up’s, which makes her a good W. Diago counter char. Nasu’s mix ups are better than Roberto’s. I STILL house Jew’s Nasu with my W. Diago like she was a welfare mom in the projects.
-Red