Then you donât believe in democracy. Donât ever give me shit about free speech and free elections. These are the risks we take as a society that chooses freedom over oppression. Itâs why the founders created the electoral college to ensure that the populist vote never did anything this egregious.
Well for you Trump supporters. âFreedom of speechâ does not mean you get to say whatever you want without consequences. It simply means the government canât stop you from saying it. It also means OTHERS get to say what THEY think about your words.
So if someone makes an ass of himself (Trump), donât cry âfreedom of speechâ when others condemn him. It only highlights your general ignorance.
Freedom of speech protects people from the mob also. The constitution isnât just a paper that guaranteeâs freedom from government, it seeks to protect it just as much from a force much more dangerous than the government. The MOB.
Shutting down rallies like that isnât in line with people who preach freedom and democracy.
If I call you a faggot or say that your mom sucked my dick, that doesnât give you the right to assault me. You may feel entitled to it, and you can argue that I had it coming, but that doesnât give you the right to pass that sort of consequence over me. You as an individual, or even as a group have no right to infringe on basic freedoms, unless iâm doing it to you and you react in self defense. Freedoms donât end where peopleâs feelings start. Thatâs not how it works,and no pretense can and should ever change that.
I think you missed his point. I understood that the âconsequencesâ Magnetic was referring to meant verbal retaliation, not physical assault. The reason I think this is because he literally said,
âIt also means OTHERS get to say what THEY think about your words.â
Where are you getting anything about a mob in that statement? Before telling someone to try again, maybe you should take your own advice and actually read what they are saying first.
nobody here is talking about how the media condemn trump and whether or not he deserves condemnation. The argument at hand is the reactionary protest shutting down trump rallies. Lets recap
we arenât talking about media backlash, we are talking about people stopping people from speaking. LRNREED and take my advice bro, it will do you a lot of good. Itâs amazing how controversy makes people oblivious to basic shit and creates conformation bias.
I know the trump hate is real, but that doesnât excuse this dumbass from saying the dumb shit heâs saying. Especially since heâs suppposedly a âjournalistâ.
@Raz0r, youre a good example of why journalism is fucking trash now in days.
how about you stop being stupid for once, or did Trump hit you right in your âsoft spotâ and made you cry
Then why the fuck did you quote someone who was talking about freedom of speech and verbal retaliation? Your arguments are confusing as hell, man. I donât know if itâs your broken English or what, but when you tell someone to âLRNEEDâ maybe you should âLRNSPELTâ first.
Yeah, I donât even know why people think itâs a good idea to let ISIS have facebook and twitter and give them legitimacy and a platform to push their idea. We even have imams in local mosques preaching for destruction of western civilization everyday and government isnât even doing anything about them. These guys arenât just sitting around writing fanfics like metal heads do, they are actually actively seeking to make that happen.
But on the other hand I also value free speech and I would like to think government shouldnât take action until actual threats are discovered.
I just donât know how to balance out between free speech and stopping the Islamist death cult pandemic right here in our backyard.
A lot of free speech advocates say debating radicals and expose them and shame them on public platform is the best way to stop them from spreading, but we know thatâs bullshit. Trump is rising specifically because of his public exposure. ISIS is setting new record on recruiting western Muslims because their messages spread across to the angry Muslims.
Itâs because people are stupid that once Trump connects to them, they will defend Trump to the end even if the media tries their best to expose Trumpâs lies. In fact, his supporters think the media accusing Trump of lying is like accusing them of lying, and so of course they will go full defensive on Trump who they believe is one of them.
*A sheriff in North Carolina is investigating whether Donald Trumpâs conduct at a rally last week rises to the level of inciting a riot.
Sean Swain, public information office for the Cumberland County Sheriffâs Office, said in a statement released through its general counsel, âWe are continuing to look at the totality of these circumstances, including any additional charges against Mr. McGraw, including the potential of whether there was conduct on the part of Mr. Trump or the Trump campaign which rose to the level of inciting a riot, and including the actions or inactions of our deputies.â
North Carolina law says that âany person who willfully incites or urges another to engage in a riot, so that as a result of such inciting or urging a riot occurs or a clear and present danger of a riot is created, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.â*
Itâs hard to argue with someone who canât speak your language. I also got home this morning and had absolutely zero care for spending my time in front of a PC replying to shit.
