Republican Party presidential candidates, 2016

Muh Climate change. I’m not getting in that Paris BS with what Canada did. Lets leave it at that they are very liberal with money.
But talks always end with a carbon tax. Not only that but if you want to talk about carbon emissions why dont you go protest to the biggest offenders.
China, that have smog covered cities yet you would clap happily as they raise cost to western nations on carbon.

I come from the far north. It’s already expensive getting goods cause of remoteness of where I am. Yet with a carbon tax you would effectively cripple rural citizens. Not only that but IIRC China has the patents for solar technology if not then manufacturing them.
I’d suspect it would be more of a thing of getting countries to be indebted to China. (I’d welcome my Chinese overlords over Trudeau. Dont know bout you.)

“Reproductive rights”. Silly term. It’s a luxury, not a right. Not getting into abortion but for sake of clarity.
I think it should only be used in extreme cases and/or for eugenic purposes. (Being born heavily disabled to the point of vegetation.)

Muh refugees/illegal immigrants. Look a Europe to see what a problem they are. Not only that but its a completely unnatural mindset to be pro open borders.
I dont think people like anchor babies but I’d think people that immigrated legally would be far more pissed then anyone else at illegals.

LGTQWTFBBQA+ Anything that is more apparent of a societies decadence would be these people. It’s not even sustainable for a culture to openly support or accept them as if its natural.

Haha, Hillary can’t even call Donald Trump sexist because her team said women only support Bernie because of dicks and not voting for her would send them to hell. Trump being racist? Clinton team attacked Obama for being secret Muslim, drug dealer, token black guy. This also means Hillary can’t bitch about Trump being a birther either.

I don’t even know why Clinton keeps using Obama as her crutch to defend her hypocrisy in debates because if any of her opponents bring up her prejudice against Obama, she will have nothing left to defend her flipflop.

it’s not like the retards on the right are wrong about abortion.

It’s murder; they however have no right in telling people if they can do it or not.

also, the left and their climate policy amount to shit when they don’t have the balls to force China and India to play ball. Also, they don’t have the will to push for technologies like nuclear.

They can talk a big game about alternative like solar and wind, but they are stupid as shit if they don’t think it requires trillions of new infastructure because our current one can’t deal with that, and trillions in supplementary battery and geoengineering such as pumping coolants such as sulfides to lower temperature.

Ya’ll fucking lefties don’t have the brains and will to push the necessary technology.

The people on the right are typically wrong about abortion (as they are with most shit), but at least it depends on who you ask for the most part. Now, regardless of my support for Bernie, I’d say that I disagree with his views on abortion in the way of being able to choose to abort late term babies on a whim, as well as a couple of other social views that we don’t see eye-to-eye on. I think the current system where early term abortion is a-ok (because they’re not even humans yet they’re fucking zygotes and embryos, I mean who cries every time they eat a baby chicken huh?), mid term abortion is questionable, and late term is a no-go unless it’s very extreme cases is just fine.

Also, you’re overestimating how much funds it would truly take to undertake massive infrastructure rework and redesign, and with all the jobs that alternative energy can generate it would greatly stimulate the economy over time. Bernie has already laid out his plans and how he plans to pay for them, but the media is so biased against him that they don’t take the time to read a simple fucking chart.

We would also be able to undertake these projects with more ease with better access to education, but retardlicans are always quick to block anything that spends any tax money that isn’t on corporate welfare and subsidies for billion-dollar companies or endless military intervention so we can go blow up Rakesh’s wedding or Ishtar’s funeral with drone strikes. But of course, nobody says we “can’t afford it” when it comes to bullshit like that.

In the grand scheme of things, the political spectrum as it stands in this country has been skewed so far to the right that the far right base are damn near the Christian equivalent of jihadists, whereas the current folks on the left are actually corporatist shills that are more aligned with the center or center-right of the international spectrum. Then, when we see a true progressive come out, they’re seen instantly as a Stalin-type character, even though true progressives typically don’t believe in authoritarianism in the least. In fact, the opposite occurs because progressives are basically leftist libertarians, which is why in some aspects I can even see eye to eye with certain right-wingers on some niche issues (they call it the political horseshoe for a reason.)

Now look, I can honestly see why a lot of people shift to the right of the spectrum because they’re tired of shitty social authoritarians who need to cry about “safe spaces” and get “triggered” by everything, and I want you guys to know that I fully agree that their shit is fucking stupid. However, I also think that once we get rid of crony capitalism that we can have a system that truly allows for people in the lower and middle classes to actually have proper opportunities to get ahead in life. Take race out of the equation; For me, this election is all about ousting the current establishment and how it’s run and bringing in a revolution that works for ALL people, and as it stands there’s currently only one candidate that actually seems to give a shit. If you want to wear a tin-foil hat like Freezing “Alex Jones” Cicada over here who believes that we need a con-artist to become the leader of the free world, then fine, but just know that Trump isn’t going to be the one that actually brings in ANY positive changes to the system. Regardless of his stance as an outsider, just remember that him being worth billions and admitting that he’s contributed to campaigns in order to receive political favors makes him the establishment.

**TL;DR I took pedo’s post as a way to springboard into the topic of why shit is fucked in this country, and that everyone’s frustrations and fears come from the propaganda and blind nationalism they’ve been fed as children, as well as a lack of seeking more information that’s readily available to people so they can truly understand the proposed plans and how they will affect our nation’s economy, infrastructure, and well being. You don’t have to agree with me on everything, and I’m not forcing anyone to vote for Sanders or any candidate, but just know that it’s important to get the facts straight so people can stop living in ignorance or with their heads in the sand. **

That’s the problem with $hillary, her and her surrogates have to heavily reach and use desperate attacks to try and convince people that Bernie isn’t the way to go. Fortunately, a lot of voters are educated enough to see past the bullshit, and as long as Bernie keeps hammering her with these attacks about her shitty record she won’t even be able to make it past the primaries. One key factor and Hillary’s biggest secret is that she’s running out of Southern states who will lend her support, and after March 15th, it’s safe to say that Bernie has most if not all of the remaining states in his corner.

Long response, but if people wanna have intelligent discussions, you have to be able to read more than 5 sentences. lol

  1. At what point? You think a 3-6 week old fetus is a baby? I mean its alive just like the cells of skin you shed everyday, and i guess you could argue while skin is alive, sheds, and dies. There is potential with the fetus. I get that. But, but a fetus still relys on the woman in order to grow. Essentially she becomes its host. Now there can be a call to question why we’re not forced to do anything else in life that preserves life, but a woman is forced to raise a child she may not want. Youre not forced to give blood, forced to not drink alcohol or smoke, or jump off a bridge to save someone are you?

To people with blind rage against abortions, i doubt they can sit back and understand that abortions are about the only thing in society women are not allowed to do in some states, and are forced to save a life they may not have wanted to save. You can use the word birth, but essentially as a host, she is saving a life that she could otherwise easily kill by other means of malnutrition and alcohol/drug abuse. Not condoning those means of inducing a miscarriage to avoid having a baby, but simply pointing out that the fetus is simply feeding off of its host. Its not some full sized baby you can see at like 6 weeks.

I dont even wanna get into the shenanigans of trying to implement the bible in the decision making process of having an abortion. I dont believe in mid or late term abortions, and late term abortions are illegal in most states. I’m sure in the states where they are legal, you have to meet certain conditions.

**Also, all these conservative republicans are against abortions, but then turn around and yell at people who need handouts, and they arent very supportive of government programs to deal with all these unwanted children in the usa. They dont wanna kill da babies, but also dont wanna take care of em, cause fuck you. **

  1. Uh, okay big guy. How the fuck would you propose forcing those countries to play ball? lol. Rhetorical question.

Im not opposed to nuclear. Its actually much more safe than most people assume it to be. There has been a lot of fear mongering there, and just a general ignorance of how those plants function.

I also think more money spent in advancements in things like cold fusion should be more on politicians and citizens minds. Corporations and politicians dont want that because it cripples everything though. The problem with advanced technology is it will fundamentally change how a society functions, and most americans are terrified of a socialist utopia. “But wut am i gon do wit all ma free time now dat i dont have to work because we got robots, self driving vehicles, and low cost cold fusion energys”. lol

“Jimmy1200 cold fusion isnt real you fucking idiot”. Okay, well i’ll give you one guy.

His name is Christopher H. Cooper. His credentials will be listed below. He was on coast to coast am a couple months ago (i know, its coast to coast, but they have great, qualified guest on all the time), and he spoke of how theyve already achieved legit cold fusion, not just some unexplained chemical process that produced results like cold fusion. It only had the power to light up a light bulb, but it exist. He also had an interesting discussion on another item he created that would send us to mars in weeks, but dropped it to focus on his nano tech, and supposedly the government already picked up where he left off, and thats technology is working right now. Thats neither here nor there.

Arguably cold fusion has been around for a long time, and even hot fusion (the lesser talked about brother), but if you cant buy into those conspiracy theories, here is a guy who is qualified, in the mainstream, and telling you we have it now on a small scale.

His website
http://www.coopercoretechnologies.com/founder/

Some of his credentials. He is currently working on his phd somewhere. I forgot. I’d have to pull up the episode and update that later. Episode he spoke on was 1/24/2016 on coast to coast am.

That’s cause they aren’t pro-life, they are just pro-birth. They could give 2 shits what happens to the kid as long as it doesn’t increase their taxes.

Protesters going to Trump rallies are only helping him. Go there, cause a ruckus, Trump has none of your bullshit which people will see as a strength, and then he gets more time in the media.

They are about as helpful as the dudes in thongs in gay pride parades.

I agree to a certain extent, but i think lately it has been pretty negative for him. The white nationalist pushing a teenage black girl out of the building, and having a veteran apologize and abhor his contribution to that because he got caught up in the moment, and did not know they were racist. The recent black guy elbowed in the face for no reason, and the guy said if he shows up again we might have to kill him. The blind lady who felt mishandled by security. The chants of sieg heil from trump supporters, as protesters were escorted out.

The protestors are coming in all flavors too. They are actually mostly white. I think at this point it is not working against trump fanatics. They will justify anything, but i think it is working for republicans who were for cruz, rubio, jeb, ect…, and think trump and his supporters are fucking retards. I dont think trump will gain much of the republican vote outside of his supporters, where as though bernie supporters will probably just vote hillary if she is nominated, to prevent the guy whose ex wife alleged he raped her from being president.

Yeah I always thought it was pointless to go to a Trump rally to protest. It’s like a Jew stepping into a neo-Nazi convention and expecting them to not beat the shit out of the Jew for stepping foot in their area. At this point there’s no reason to protest because for the most part people have their minds made up about which candidate they are going to vote for.

Honestly, this election gonna go 1 of 4 ways at this point (post election stuff is just speculation as to what I personally think would happen):

Option A: Hillary wins nomination on Dem side and barely beats Trump in general election. We avoid having a wild card who can make or break this country (my money’s on the latter) in favor of 4 more years of an establishment center-right shill and it’s business as usual until America decides they’re ready to catch up to the rest of the world and stop being an imperialistic oligarchy.

Option B: Hillary wins nomination on Dem side and barely loses to Trump in the general election. Trump will more than likely ruin the country by plunging us into World War III because he gets pissed off at a country for something very stupid and trivial, ignores whatever laws including the Constitution to put in place whatever he wants, and goes on a power trip to the point of basically becoming a dictator, assuming it even gets to that point. Otherwise, he’ll be impeached, assassinated, or perhaps he might actually do something right.

Option C: Bernie wins nomination on Dem side and curb stomps Trump in the polls. From there it’s not the end for Bernie, but rather the beginning, and it’ll take a lot of cooperation from the American people to help make sure the policies he wants set in motion take place. He’ll have to play politics in the best way possible: Make both Democrats and Republicans play ball with what he wants, or end their political careers by publicly shaming them to the point that they get voted out of office. He may get assassinated assuming the establishment decides that he’s too dangerous for them and they have to act rashly as a last resort, but that move would possibly spark a revolution that forces America into true class warfare where the donor class are up against everyone else in America, including philanthropist billionares like Warren Buffett.

Option D : Trump somehow doesn’t win enough of the delegates required to secure his victory in the primaries; even though he would have the most, the RNC would use a power play to make a brokered convention and elect their establishment fallback candidate to take Trump’s place. That plan could go 1 of 2 ways: either Trump plays along because the establishment buys him off and he lends his support to the fallback candidate, or Trump gets furious and scorns the RNC by running as an independent, handing the election to the Democratic nominee.

I’d rather gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon than vote for another corporate puppet like Shillary. I’d almost want Trump to win, cause there’s a (very) small chance that his presidency would be entertaining, hilarious, and actually beneficial to the American people.

Yeah, if bernie doesnt get the nomination, id almost rather not contribute, and embrace the chaos, or more of the same. lol.

At the most fundamental level, it is still murder. You are robbing a life of it’s potential and existence and are making a decision on whether this life can exist or not for it. However don’t get it twisted, people don’t have the right to tell you if you can’t end it or not, and whether or not a god allows it or not is irrelevant because that’s a personal decision between your god or principles. That decision is on you becasue you have to “deal” with it for 9 months. But no matter how you slice it or present it, you are snuffing a life out when you get an abortion.

Not like the right can justify their position through this argument though because they support capital punishment and feel justified in having a god complex when it fits their agenda.

Nuclear, invest in 4th generation nuclear reactors
invest in fusion

all that anti nuclear propaganda comes from leftists that think solar and wind are what will save us. When in fact, you require massive amounts of land being set aside to make these farms, along with the need to create massive fucking holes in the ground to mine rare earth minerals and make us dependent on a foreign nation. Why would anybody want that?

Solar and wind should be used, and enviormentalists should be told to shut the fuck up when they ise animal habitats as an excuse to block building these thing. However, solar will not be a suitable replacement for fossil fuels unless we can double the energy efficiency of those panels from 15% to much higher levels, and invest into battery technology to store massive amounts of reserve energy when the sun isn’t shining.

not really. Not only do bridges, roads, sewers need to be rebuilt. The current energy infrastructure is not suitable for solar and wind energy. Cities need to be rewired to have panels everywhere, the grid system needs to be rewired as well to store energy. The only way a system powered by solar and wind can work is we have the capacity to store energy, and that would require significant battery technology that we do not have now.

And the kind of batteries we need aren’t developed yet and would require expensive materials and expensive upkeep to be efficient and have virtually zero loss.

People think that cutting the military budget would make these programs possible. It won’t, you can cut the military budget and it wouldn’t go very far in terms of creating the necessary funds. You’d have to not only cut that budget, you’d have to increase taxes on everybody to fund these programs.

What we need requires $$ that we dont’ have unless we increase taxes. I’d be ok with it, but I would need guarantees that the money isn’t fucking squandered on pork.

Also, you guys are too worried about trump wining.

The electoral college probably wouldn’t vote for him, it was made exactly for this situation where the popular vote is stupid.

proving once again that democracy is over rated.

See my previous post with the 4 possible outcomes of this election. Option D equals the most likely outcome. Albeit nuanced, it’s the most logical. I’m not worried about Trump winning, I’m just saying that if it ever got to the point where Trump wins the primary, there’s only a small chance that he would actually win the White House. This is his race to lose; The outcome on the Dem side will determine what direction this country wants to go in, and that’s why people care so much about what’s happening on that side.

I’m not quite sure why Republicans are voting against their own self interest. Drumpf and Cruz are LESS likely to win a general election than Rubio or Kasich. The problem is that our primary system, created and perpetuated by bloated political parties, supports extremists over moderates. The inflation of campaign costs has made 3rd party runs almost impossible unless you have the wealth to support it, and even then the media, in cahoots with the parties, will just shut you out and prevent you from getting any exposure. This creates a system which discourages moderates (which leads to low voter turnout imo) and acts as a playing field between two extremes of human corruption as they dance with masks upon their faces and claim to be fighting for the betterment of people.

Honestly, it’s about damn time both parties crash and burn. The Republican front runner is basically a radical right-wing independent, and a longtime left-wing independent is a serious contender for the Democratic nomination.

Come back to us when you stop acting 12.

If Hillary wins the nom, I’m voting for Trump and then moving to some remote location in Africa.

Calling trump his surname because of that john oliver video isnt acting 12. Stop it. Do you not like shoelaces too because everyone wears them. lol

“Guys, im totally cool because i dont call him drumpf, and still call him trump” lol

Yes it is, that was a grown man throwing a tantrum because Trump is popular. That type of behavior feeds is one of the reasons why this election is a total clusterfuck. Trump has plenty of reasons why he shouldn’t be elected. All it does is make people look like smarmy fuckers that think they’re damn clever while doing nothing to further discussion.

The left leaning side of politics sure does a million and a half things to antagonize and insult people on the right all the while pretending they don’t. So if anybody has a point to make, they sure as fuck can do it without resorting to dumb shit.