Republican Party presidential candidates, 2016

Her mouth is all fucked up, put her back in shes not finished yet!

Keeping a copy here for future reference

I actually agree. Cruz is so smug he think he is always the smartest person in the room with his bullshit rhetoric. When folks started suggesting he try for the Supreme Court seat I damn near swallowed my bottom lip.

With trump you get the idea he could be molded by folks who actually know what the fuck is up, impossible with Cruz, nobody knows more about anything then fucking Ted.

Cruz is even more unelectable in a general then Trump though. Can’t win the White House with Texas, Louisiana, Georgia and Alaska. (He would win the usual southern states, but no way he wins a battleground state like Pennsylvania or Virginia).

What an awful group of candidates the GOP has assembled.

Cruz vs Trump for the nomination? Urgh.

So I was thinking about who to vote for and wanted SRK’s input.

Republicans:

  1. Carson: It’s unfortunate he dropped out. Seemed like the only reasonable candidate that wanted to look at the issues intellectually and work on them to make America better without degrading himself to disgusting political tactics. Able to stay calm but seems too quite/passive to be in a leader position such as president.
  2. Donald Trump: He mentioned some things that I liked and some that I didn’t. Like the politicians being bought out and buying out the media, which is further supported by the media taking parts of his speeches and putting them together to make him look like a villain. Better libel laws might actually get Fox, CNN, New York Times, Huffington Post, etc, to stop spreading lies, hatred, harassment, etc. Not sure why building a wall is so important, but Americans should be more worried about it being used to stop them from getting out than to prevent others getting in. He is very well connected with intelligent people in a myriad of different areas, which is an enormous asset unmatched by other candidates. Also, the radical Islam issue is growing and he’s the only one I can see that would be able to sit down with others like Putin to work together.
  3. Kasich: I didn’t see him fling insults so that’s a plus. He sure has a large amount of experience. The problem is that he worked with people to implement policies that led to the decline of America, so voting for him would be more of the same.
  4. Ted Cruz: I watched a little, but when I did, he ignored the questions he was asked and kept attacking Trump. More research showed that he even sent out letters telling people Carson dropped out back when he didn’t and that they should vote for him instead. Looks like a horrible human being to me.
  5. Marco Rubio: From what I saw, he blacks out under pressure. Definitely not someone you want to have sit and discuss things with Putin. He often misses work, which might be attributed to his personality and him being scared/nervous. That aside, in the beginning he didn’t look like a bad guy but recently became aggressive/rude/offensive. It doesn’t match his personality, he is probably being programmed to do it. He doesn’t appear to be a criminal like Ted Cruz so that puts him above Ted but too lacking in experience to be president.

Democrat side.

  1. Hillary: What I see is destabilization of Ukraine (friends of relatives have died because of her) and her support of Wall Street and hatred of New York residents make her a clear no for me. Also, her ignorance of proper procedures and policies, not just limited to security, would make her a disaster if elected president.
  2. Sanders: A lot of ideas for change, but lack of research or the inability to convey the process for implementing them. Just because something works for a small country over a short period of time, doesn’t mean a giant like the US should rush to implement it for long term. Better than Hillary but not worth going out to vote for.

Trump and Sanders both have the problems with specifics, but Trump much more so than Sanders.

When I watched a couple debates/interviews, Trump was the only republican to actually give specifics.

When asked about radical Islam, the other candidates just gave the generic “build military, eliminate Isis” reply. Trump was the only one who gave specifics, such as, sitting down with others, like Putin, who have a common enemy, and Putin even said he would be willing to work with Trump. Donald also mentioned how in the beginning it would have been intelligent letting two sides fight it out where possible and not getting unnecessarily involved, something the other candidates do not appear to understand. He was also the only one to mention how inferior our military technology is and was honest about it being due to politics. He was the only one to take a firm stance to temporarily not allow anyone to come to the US from terrorist hot spots.

Regarding economy, again, the other candidates didn’t say anything specifc, they say generic things like they will fix it. Trump actually gave specifics like if companies leave the US then he will punish them by taxing imports for example.

I haven’t watched everything, if you guys have like a list of specifics regarding all the candidates, please post it.

With Sanders at least you get a guy who seems honest and has the best interests of the country at heart.

Hilary is like the exact opposite of that.

Our military is a lot of things, but it’s far from inferior to anything any other country can begin to put together. He is dead wrong on his assessment of our military strength.

He is also wrong on this idea that letting Isis take Syria and they would somehow be weaker from that conflict is completely wrong and is something someone un informed on how these things work would say. Take this from someone who spent 8 years of their life in the military or as a defense contractor.

He speaks on things he knows nothing about but his matter of fact tone has tricked people into thinking he knows what he is talking about.

I actually know someone who got injured due to a roadside bomb.

The fact that US military vehicles are still getting owned by roadside bombs in this day and age just shows how poor the military technology in these operations is.

If you spent your time in the military you were probably programmed info like that you’re the best military in the world and that you have the best technology in the world, but those that get injured see past the propaganda.

Which reminds me of another thing. The US is always saying how the US is number #1 but Trump was the only one to mention how the US is failing at education.

According to PISA results from 2012, the US is 35th out of 64 countries in math and 27th in science.

America still number #1 though, right?

We aren’t talking about education, we are talking about military strength. A road side bomb is going to ANY mass produced military vehicle from any country. An up armored humvee isn’t magic, it can’t magically stop nails and ball barring traveling 1000 mph from entering your flesh.

Please educate yourself on military spending by country, then check on air craft carriers in service vs the rest of the world. There is no brain washing here jack i’m very critical of the US military machine, And have the scars to prove it, my service wasn’t just talk.

But go ahead and listen to fucking Trump spew his nonsense. What fucking more could the military have that we don’t? We have hundreds of multi million dollar fighter jets that have never seen combat. I was nothing but respectful and tried to answer your question and you have the audacity to call someone brain washed and uninformed? Tell me what the military is missing? How is letting Isis take control of Syria a good idea? How many more trillions of dollars does the military need?

Vote for Trump, he’s your guy.

The problem is you simply can’t say are military is weak and not provide any substance to back up your statement like Trump has. Weak is relative, what country has a strong military then? What do they have that we don’t? There is zero substance or truth when Trump or any republican talk about our military being weak.

It’s just a counter argument to the Democrats position that we spend far to much on our military.

The problem with ISIS is not a lack of resources, but a lack of direction. Despite their bravado, they are little more than cavemen with guns; very little education, and even less organization. However, like the shit stains they are, they nestle and slip into the smallest cracks of society, waiting for an opportunity to strike.

Conventional military tactics don’t really work against terrorist organizations. You cannot fight a “war” in the traditional sense because they’ll just move the battlefield somewhere else if they’re at a disadvantage. Focus on actual defense/intelligence to prevent them from gaining ground, and ISIS will eventually eat itself from the inside.

Not really, I do remember plenty of guys complaining about our weapons and how inferior they were those of other nations. Wasnt really a lot of rah rah going on about how we could whoop any and everyone. TBH, most your day in the military is like any other job with a ton of profanity and complaining about…, everything.

Most countries military don’t even train with live ammunition, his they have a legit armored unit it’s with old T 54/55 Russian tanks made decades ago and no real air force. You simply cannot say are military is lacking but can’t provide specific examples to back that up.

When debating military strength we are talking about other countries not terrorist organization. A F-22 isn’t going to help you when your enemy only has a ak-47 in the middle of downtown Baghdad in a busy afternoon.

ehh… Your assessment on why traditional warfare doesn’t work is correct but you are wrong about the lack of organization and Isis destroying themselves from the inside.

Any terrorist organization of that size and influence lack a lot of things, but it’s not organization. You simply cannot pull off some of the shit they have and lack leadership.

As far as destroying themselves from the inside we have seen far weaker terrorist groups flourish when left to their own devices. This is definitely an intelligence solution based problem but it has to be aggressive. These groups simply just don’t go away with time.

I actually looked at both.

Looks like the US spends the most on education and is failing at it.

I also did a little search about air craft carriers and found this:


Looks like the military is so inferior because they throw away money on garbage like this.
You have hundreds of multi million dollar fighter jets that have never seen combat? Is that something to be proud of? All that wasted money.

The programming comment wasn’t directly at you, sorry if you felt offended. When I meet with friends/relatives, for example, Thanksgiving, some people that served get to talk and it really does sound like most people under 35 in the military are programmed what to think and do and the few older ones who know the situation either know better than to make waves and just go with the flow or quietly try to get out.

Yea, I don’t think they are fighting correctly either. Trump mentioned this too when he criticized the US for mentioning the leave date and also mentioned that the US needs to do something about ISIS’ use of social media to recruit.

What you said is actually what happened, we go in one place, they go somewhere else. We leave, they return.

I too think the US should focus more on intelligence and get to the source of the problem instead of using such primitive warfare tactics.

I don’t personally know many, but most of the ones I do were terrified and I feel like they have lost a large amount of mental capacity after their service. One of them I no longer even consider to be human, just an empty shell. I know many people that have many different kinds of jobs in the US but none of the local jobs I have seen cause such extensive mental deterioration.

In summary, it’s far from being like any other job.

I just watched the debate in full.

Trump is easily on of the GOAT candidates this country has had in terms of rhetoric and message delivery.

he has the entire nation in the palms of his hand and he can pivot in a way where his base will follow him, even if it’s counter intutive to what he has said already.

Trump is on another level. I mean all these politicians are tell half or misguided truths but Trump can literally spew some shit, then completely change and people go… Well yea at least he isn’t a piece of shit politician that lies.

I was watching a show where a lady called in and said Trump couldn’t do anything short of killing my daughter that I wouldn’t vote for him, I don’t care what anyone says about him.

Dude got that juice, I’m not going to go into why I think that is though.

I don’t understand the Trump cult of personality. It’s baffling to an outsider.

Like the dude is a weird orange millionaire who constantly lies and lacks any kind of self awareness. Other than as a shitshow I don’t know why people are voting for him.