Looking to run Vergil/ Dante/ Strider, but I’m debating the order and assist to use for Dante.
What do you guys think? Vergil with Crystal or Jam Session?
I want to Run Dante first, since it will build meter for Vergil and I have some good combos with both assists. DHC wise I think this is the best order as well.
But with Vergil first, I get combo extensions with Dante assist and having Dante second gives me the chance to rebuild meter for Strider again.
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I’d use Crystal so Vergil has an OTG assist, and perhaps put Dante on point so Vergil has meter if you lose Dante or Million Dollars into Spiral Swords is a fantastic DHC. Plus, if you lose Dante then your opponent gets to choose which of the 2 strongest anchors in the game they want to deal with in Xfactor lvl 3 (if you still have Xfactor of course)
I run Dante first, you protect your biggest XF threats who also need meter by putting one of the best batteries in the game in front of them. He also DHC’s into Vergil ridiculously well. I don’t feel comfortable using XF1 off of Vajra to kill the first character, and this lets me kill the first character without needing to use XF at all.
I would run Jam Session, having an OTG assist in Vergil/X/Strider is basically pointless, you need to use XF to convert off of Vajra regardless. Jam Session lets you easily confirm off of Helm Breaker and standing throws, is also a very good combo extender, a great neutral assist/silly incoming mixups and all of that stuff.
I’m considering running Vergil/Dormammu/Morrigan, and using Dark Harmonizer to keep Vergil either in permanent Devil Trigger or put a lot of Spiral Swords into play. Has anyone messed around a lot with the Vergil/Morrigan combination that could give me some tips for maintaining what is essentially assist-less pressure? Video links are welcome as well. I’ve been using the Dormammu/Morrigan shell for a long time, I can just never seem to find a third.
If you can go find Omniscythe, he told me in person that he has some setup to get an entire bar each rep, but I think the basic idea is to call twice while the swords are out, establish blockstun, make them block a Round Trip and get another Harmonizer in and keep it going. You could probably Rapid Slash after each Round Trip too just to give them something to block.
Permanent Devil Trigger is also hilariously broken in it’s own right of course.
Does anyone have an idea of how a Dante, Nova, Vergil team might work out if at all??Nova, Vergil and Dante are hands down my fave characters in the game but it just doesn’t seem like they’d make a great team(hence my main “Nova/Vergil/Doom” and 2ndary “Wolverine/Dante/Akuma” teams instead). If anyone has some good insight/advice for this and can possibly convince me they could work really well I’d love to hear it…otherwise I’ll just be sticking to the teams I’ve got now
Hypothetical situation and a resulting question, hopefully some fun for ya’ll to offer your 2 cents on…
-Your first character is dead. So is theirs. Two on two.
-You’re full life Magneto backed by full life Vergil “anchor.” (quotes because he’s about to come in)
-You’ve got 3+ meters.
-You still have XF should you wish to pop it.
-OK, so the opponent is 3/4 to full screen away. You do Magnetic Shockwave xx immediate DHC to Swords (Or DT if your answer to the question warrants DT instead, I just always assumed Swords here). Opponent blocks Shockwave.
-Vergil now comes in safely sworded (or DT’d if that’s your preference), opponent in block stun from the 'wave. Vergil will have a disruptah assist backing him and at least 1 meter to play with (soon to be more). The world is now Vergil’s oyster.
The question: What do you do, hot shot? What. Do. You. Do? Basically, Vergil’s in on his own terms, he’s poised to attack, he’s got one of his best assists at the ready, he has a meter or more to cancel a Rapid Slash should he wish to slash one ever-so-rapidly. What sort of sequence(s) do you have in mind? What are some possible branches from your tactical tree? How might a crafty Vergil might open someone up and/or close this puppy out from here? Some string to Rapid Slash xx DT into a sM+Disruptor xx M Trick? Just thinking ‘out loud,’ but this sort of situation must theoretically be HIGHLY advantageous, and I imagine the more experienced Vergil players here could, barring strong and/or lucky defense, either outright win, or at least kill another character.
In a nutshell: Please, in your own words, tell the thread what “going ape shit” might look like.
You can set up Unblockables with those two buy using Vergils Helm break call strider teleport c.:l: and with Wesker on in coming chracter call strider j.:h: teleport and with Strider Vergils rapid slash assist can help you out doing Formation C(Bird Bomb) combos.Vergil/Wesker/Strider is one of the Strongest and Cheapest teams in the game besides ZMC, I think thats Viscants permanent team now which is good for him cuz Yipes can teach him how to play Vergil and Clock can teach him how to play Strider. It a winner for sure
Here’s what I’m looking at as far as a couple team ideas…I want Vergil and Dante on my team, I can have Vergil at point or anchor, regardless Dante will be second to help build meter, but I don’t know who would be a great third character for the team. I was thinking Wesker, but I’ve been experimenting with Ammy (assist purposes), Akuma, and Hulk. I was told Mag, Doom or Spencer are great third characters…any ideas?
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I have a quick question. I have a team that is Zero/Vergil/Doom and I was thinking about replacing Doom with someone that fits better to the rest of the team, also if poosible, could you tell me which assist I should use?
Thanks in advance!
A lock down assist for these two are great cuz you force your opponent to block a mix up, Akuma, Frank,Dante, Iron man ( his repulser blast assist cant be push blocked forcing your opponent in to a 50/50 on incoming and knockdown)
I was also thinking about Dante since he is a great assist for both other chars. But there is a slight problem. The assist that helps zero (Jam Session, helps him a lot in combos! With Vergils Rapid Slash and Jam Session, Zero is abel to do 1mil with 1 meter!) is not the assist that helps Vergils teleport mix-up (Weasel shot).
Which should I pick?
instead of dante, play either magneto or hawkeye. em disruptor and greyhound (triple arrow) are both perfectly fast horizontal cover assists that allow for ridiculous vergil mix-ups. they also work for zero as well and gives him good cover.
or if you’re going to play zero and vergil with dante, play zero/dante/vergil (vergil anchor’s da bes).
So right now my Team is Nemesis/Vergil/Arthur and I enjoy it quite a bit but I’m finding my weak point is Vergil. I’m not very good at execution since I just started learning to play fighting games so I’m feeling like Vergil was a bad idea.
Basically some ideas of the trouble I’m having is that I frequently get :f:+:h: to come out and it seems to leave me really open for a punish. I am also having a lot of trouble doing :dp: motions regularly so I can’t consistently do Vergil’s moves since a bad input can leave me open for a bad punish. I also seem to get judgement cut to come out a lot of the time by accident in the middle of my combos.
Should I drop Vergil for someone else? (open for suggestions) or is there any advice I could get for a newbie that help me improve.