Regarding 98 & 2002 UM

I just wonder, how different are those two games? Is 2002 UM superior over 98 UM in every aspect, or are they just different? I’ve been trying to figure this out for a while. If Evo would allow KOF again, would they use both games?

98UM seems to be a lot more balanced than 2002UM. Aside from Krauser and Eiji (based on what I’ve seen) being a smidge too powerful, 98UM seems about as close to perfectly balanced as any fighting game I’ve ever seen. I think you can literally play anyone and expect to do well. 2002UM is merely well balanced.

At the end of the day, I’d say they’re just different, and it’s a matter of taste which is better.

both of you are fucking idiots.

damn! harsh lol

Ahahaha

2002 UM is better balanced than 98 UM by far and away I will be more than happy to stick by this and answer reasons for this. Also “aside from Krauser and Eiji”

First off Krauser is more powerful in 98UM than anyone is in 2002 UM, also while K’ is #1 in 2002 UM he’s not by much, and practically ALL the cast in 2002 UM is usable plus in tournaments if you look around the WORLD (not just Asia) you will see more variations in teams in tournament selections than in 98UM.

Now time to get harsh and call it like it is:

UNTIL THE SNK COMMUNITY DECIDES TO SHOW UP TO TOURNAMENTS AND SUPPORT THEIR GAMES, YOU WON’T SEE EITHER GAME AT EVO.

-DG

Wow. Holy shit dude.:rofl:

just play the games and you judge for yourself and close this thread

Okay, I will defer to your superior knowledge on the subject. I know you know more about it than I do. My response was based on my own meager experience. I honestly expected someone to come in and correct me (and possibly call me a fucking idiot). The many videos I’ve watched have shown more variety in 98UM, and I think I’ve seen every character played and played well, but 2002UM seems to have many characters I never see played. I know I’m only seeing a small part of the picture, though.

They’re both terrific games. There’s no reason to play both, really.

Mr. Awesome, both are excellent games my friend no questions asked, and yes it is to a degree about personal experience, and in my personal experience and travels 98UM suffers moreso from Krauser domination than anything else. I say this knowing the fact that both Eiji and Krauser are on my team, Eiji is without question beatable, and so is Krauser, but Krauser has an answer for nearly everything, enough to where he could be basically a main and a EX Krauser. People have to remember, the goal of SNKp originally was to make Krauser a monster, they said the way Krauser is in 98UM is the way he was supposed to be in 96, and he was top tier in 96, but not nearly as strong as he is in 98UM.

Krauser is very beatable in 98UM no questions asked, but you have to know the game very well, and to those that may not and may just tier whore and look for the easy way out, they’ll quit because they cannot beat Krauser.

In 2002UM no one is as strong as Krauser, not even if you were to enable him-Geese. Geese as dominant as he is in 2002UM has some problems against Billy (does that make ANY story sense whatsoever???), King, and a few others that can zone him well, like Jhun etc. Geese is at his deadliest with multiple meter, Krauser only needs one bar to keep you guessing. A little known game called 98UM Hero was released in arcades that toned down Krauser, but because it’s only in a few select arcades few know about the Krauser nerfs in the game.

In 2002 UM I’ve seen at least every character played once, that includes EX Kensou, Chin, Orochi Shermie, etc. I’m a match video fanatic, I study match videos in and out because simply I am not in Mexico or another country all the time levelling up the way I want to, so I use match videos to train my mind and try new scenarios, I personally know from firsthand experience match videos are nothing compared to actually playing in person, NOTHING.

In 2002 UM you do not have to have K’, Kasumi, or Nameless on your team to win (The most played team in Asian Match vids, even Batas team), you can win with damn near anyone, it is a game without question about matchups, you have to know them VERY VERY VERY VERY WELL in 2002 UM, and that is the sign of a well balanced game.

A good Angel can still wreck shop in 2002 UM, a good Heidern, Iori, King, EX Takuma, Bao, Choi, Billy, Yuri, Mexican Style Clark, Ramon, May Lee, Kyo-2, Hinako, Takuma (lack of exposure) and sooo many others simply because you havent seen what they can do in person or played against a good person using them for certain in 2002 UM can wreck shop.

Heh, thanks for the long reply, Dark Geese. I’m a noob at King of Fighters, and I know you enjoy cultivating noobs. Heh. Unfortunately I don’t think I have the manual dexterity to become a contender.

I’ve been reading this board for a while, and your videos really amped me up for 98UM. I had the original 98 for the Dreamcast, but it never clicked with me. I learned a lot from watching your videos, then branched out and found other good YouTube channels. Now I watch a ton of fighting game videos.

I think the real difference between Krauser and Eiji is that Eiji has to really commit to his domination, while Krauser can dominate much more safely. There’s no doubt that Eiji with a flashing meter is just plain gross, though. Nameless seems to really eat up new players – you can’t beat him unless you’re very good or know the holes in his offense.

I like a variety of characters. Eiji and EX King seem to be mainstays at this point. I’m wavering on EX Joe, Joe, and Mai for my third. I seem to have hit a wall and can’t get my offense going, though, and I can’t perform combos well. I think it’s partly because the timing is different from Street Fighter. I’ve also been playing a bit of Samurai Shodown 2, Fatal Fury Special, and Real Bout Special, which seem more my thing.

Yeah man the timing from Street Fighter to KOF and SNK games is different indeed.