Not surprised there’s no topics about this with IM, Refly is word up-hard-as hell. So to all combo experts, lets share/make something worth using this crap.
What I got so far…
(corner with any FLY air combo ending with up+fierce or up+roundhouse), **[unfly, REFLY, short, strong, up+fierce], **repeat brackets
u dont have to input strong, but it makes it easier to combo. u can only do a certain amount of reps before IM starts floating away from the opponent. This combo also lifts them to the top of the screen.
What I know so far…
IM’s fly (the actual startup) brings him back a little bit so it’s hard to continue reps, you can fastfly it fwd, but refly is hard as hell as is…i myself am having trouble, but if anyone is quicker or can demo on a programmable pad, please try…
up+fierce = huge hit stun. This means more combo possibilities, meaning more reps. Yet refly is so fast, the only thing i can really input is short.
short floats the opponent upward. I’m trying to go for an INF going downward, so i can connect a Proton Canon
jab also combos after the up+fierce during refly, but it doesnt float like short. Meaning that if you try another refly rep (refer to #1) … its hard to cont a combo
What I’m trying to go for…
(non corner, any fly combo ending with up+fierce or up+roundhouse) [unfly,REFLY, airdash d/f+short, up+fierce], *opponent **descends *to normal inf height x Proton Canon
if “short” starts to lift the opponent too high, switch to “jab”, and interchange when needed.
----------Like I said, i’m not a refly expert yet…so i need people to share what they got or what they could think of to get this going somewhere. Right now it’s pretty hard for me to do, but the possibilities are really quite endless if you’re quick with the hands. My resources are only my mind and human hands, so anyone with a programmable stick would be alot of help.
that “fly infinite” requires unfly, “refly” doesnt .and it that case, i’d choose an inf that brings my opponent downwards for a reg inf setup. that particular setup should be long gone by now. there’s way better things to do with unfly
after some hardcore practice, i’ve managed to pull it through. u can actually do the combo with the airdash like i predicted and it is a pure INF. but the “refly” motions requires a DOUBLE qcb+short+roundhouse, + a fastfly, + an attack to “combo” after a up+fierce, including positioning (because of IM’s little floating while attempting flight mode)… that you have to do in LESS THAN A SECOND…making it too too much work FOR ME (time consuming practice, and actual hand movement). if u can pull it off consistently i give u madd props
i’ve concluded (for myself) that it’s not even worth it… even if it a a pure infinite, just due to the sheer difficulty. BUTTTTTTTT when the concept is used with “assist combos” it’s another fckin story. i’ve made some INF SETUPS that can be used anywhere on screen from ANY clean “normal” hit -----well not true exactly, but I made a nifty one with doom AAA. it aint easy i’m telling u, but i needed an “inf anywhere on screen” with doom and it WILL do wonders once perfected.
well maybe i thought i saw something that didnt exist, but it was something like fly, [lk, mp U+HP] repeat
but yeah, all that stuff you say u have to do, its just too hard and u might as well go for the unfly infinite or hit them down and get a chance to cross up.
i just tried to do it in trianing mode and do fly [ lp, lk, u+hp] as well and i cant get it. so maybe i was seeing things, or maybe they were refyling and doing ur combo the whole time. i dont know, i watched liek 10 ironman vids on utube i couldnt find it
pretty sure ur talking about the unfly inf (unless there’s 10 vids on utube with refly combos…nope) that is a semi inf with unfly mode. unfly mode doesnt last the entire round. refly does. it just requires extremeley fast motions. it’s doing normal attacks into fly mode, unflying, into fly mode again, to cancel the lag of the normals, to register combos.
it’s not too hard if u use the concept of refly towards assist combos. 1hit anywhere with near unlimited restrictions = combo to PC = potential death.
in the last match of the vid, you can see his iron man do the refly combo. It’s in the end when it’s iron man vs storm. It starts with the first up+hp he connects. it goes, up+hp, a/d up, lp, lp, up+hp, fly, lk, mp, up+hp, unfly xx fly xx lk, mp, up+hp
and no he couldn’t do ad/df lk, up+hk while the opponent is crouching. there’s too many frames in the up+hk and he’s too close to the ground so it would just come out as a whiff.
ok im glad someone finally brought up this topic, i wasn’t gonna talk about it unless people posted about it so here it goes, REFLYS ARE HELLA HELPFUL. I use refly every chance i get and reflys with IM help build more damage when unfly is unavailable. Ill explain some of the refly options.
Mid Screen setups:
To me the easiest setups for sure fire reps of refly would be launch s.lk,s.rh, adu xx s.lk,s.lk,s.rh, fly s.lp,s.mp,up+fierce, refly repeat. Midscreen is hard to get more then 2 reps of refly so milk every hit you can each refly.
Corner Setup:
Pretty much the same thing as the midscreen setup but here you can start refly whereever you want and once you reach the top of the screen you can do s.lp,s.mp, up+fierce until spinout. Ill put up a match vid of it or something soon i get the corner set up alot and refly infinite in the corner is fairly easy once you get used to refllying.
Also i forgot to mention that everytime you refly instead of pressing up in order to attack right after refly, master moving forward in the air while doing it. This way in the corner you can stay on the character, people have witnessed me do it till spin out in china town.
Ps:theres resets off of refly too but ill leave it up to yall to figure that out, i can’t give away everything =D
I found out you can input an airdash between each rep. You have to be crazy quick though…like don’t even wait for animation of the AD to start. You can tell you’re doing it right when you see IM floating towards your opponent during fly mode. With time and practice I’m sure you can bring him down towards normal jump inf setups.
Also I’m sure posting any information with IM won’t hurt your game. He got crazy combos and destroy entire teams, we all know…but I think getting the actual “hit” off and not getting hit will determine how effective your IM can be. Honestly I’d rather see an IM breaking down defenses and setting up a good offense, rather than someone knowing all the inf setups in the world and getting hit by dumb shit and never getting a hit off.
also, i noticed even without unfly, when ur not in flight mode u can still do specials, so after an air combo use smart bombs or a well time uni-beam to cover ur ass or start the pressure.
well to “refly” you need to be in fly mode. in fly mode its similar to his normal jump state in which you can’t do a HK that follows a HP without hit count resetting. only in sj mode can you cancel the HP immediately with a HK.
yup so knee stuff is out of the question but i did try the dash after refly and i got some interesting results, im going to continue working on the dash version and ill get back to yall on it.
hey sup !! im new to srk and ive heard these things about reflys with IM so i decided to check it out!!! so when would u add the dash ?? would it be after u unfly u dash then refly or would u dash right after up+fierce hits and continue to do another rep then refly and rep? or how?? and are there any refly inf. that would lead to his ground inf.??? how many hits can u get tops with the mid-screen refly inf.???
Dashing after unfly to refly - i’ve never tried it that way, but you bring up a very good point. You may be able to dash d or d/f, quickly cancel into refly, into another combo to get that to gradually bring them down into NORMAL JUMP INF SETUP. Like I said, I’ve never tried but I strongly advise anyone to try it out. Just remember you only have a slim chance of canceling the AD into reflying+fastflying+attacking to keep the combo going.
Dashing after up+fierce - is impossible because you can’t cancel normals into dashes DURING fly mode (alah…xmen vs streetfighter style)
What I do is as soon as you hit up+fierce, go into the motion of hcb+2kicks (unfly), into another motion of hcb+2kicks(refly), tap 2kicks insanely fast (the airdash), into short or jab (depending on the position of you and your opponent (even faster…almost instantly). You can tell you inputted the AD if IM slowly floats towards your opponent while doing the short/jab.
Are there any refly inf that lead to ground? That’s why I started the thread to find out. I don’t have the game right now so I can’t try myself. I believe with insane amounts of practice and timing someone/anyone could find it. BUT I DID find an normal ground inf setup which works anywhere against anywhom with Doom AAA. It’s great if you use an IM/doom team because if you clean-hit you’re opponent anywhere, now you can drop them into doom+refly inf setup, without needing unfly mode.
How many hits can you get midscreen? Without the dash, i’ve gotten a max of 2-3. With the dash, as many as you can get until the dude dizzys out.