K.Brad & Smug trash talking each other has absolutely nothing to do with coaching. As far as I understand it, K.Brad let Smug stay in his hotel room once, then Smug bit him back on stream. That’s their personal drama to settle. Even if K.Brad got emotional, it happened way after his tweets on coaching.
K.Brad is just one of a bunch of people who agree with me. Who agrees with you? wwwww
Until we see him step back from competing and moving more into the role of mentor and coach others consistently not just off competition but also between mid-sets and tournament matches, It’s more safe to assume that he does not want any rule to hinder his chances in SFV. And Daigo coaching Bonchan at EVO2014 was nothing more than national pride.
I don’t understand how can I be salty when I wasn’t the one initiating any insults over something that doesn’t really affect me? I’m not salty. If anything, you’re looking more saltier than before. After all, I’m not the one bringing up these derogatory terms.
“Daigo never coaches, well except for that time he coached someone, but that one doesn’t count because it undermines my assumptions about his position!!!”
No its really not. You just want it to be because otherwise it undermines your attempt at an appeal to a higher authority. If Daigo was as against coaching as you claim he never would have done it to begin with.
I always like this topic in gaming. Live coaching should always be banned. It changes the dynamic a lot when a person is free to only observe a game and give advice instead of also being concerned with executing actions. A coach in an RTS or Magic style card game is devastating if they can coach in real time. In a fighting game it could get almost as bad because if it wasn’t banned coaches would have mic and headphone set ups with their players so they can whisper advice unless the other person is dumb enough to play without headphones or a coach themselves.
This guy still hasn’t answered what exactly he considers “coaching”. Sure someone sitting next to the player giving advice is coaching, but what about someone standing behind just saying random advice? Would we need to install a “no talking while matches are being played”? How do you even prove that the person followed said advice? “That dude said to block my wakeup DPs, and then he did it, he should be DQed and I should get the win now!” The more you think about this “problem”, the more you should think about how impractical it would be to enforce, to the point where it’s not worth the effort at all.
Someone mentioned using sound proof booths like they do at Dota/LoL esports events, but this simply would not work for the FGC. There are two types of events for fighting games:
Open tournaments with thousands of players, where it is simply impractical to have a sound proof booth for every single match. I’d also argue that this goes against a lot of things that make FGC tournaments so awesome (crowd pressure)/
Private long-set matches like these ESL events. Booths wouldn’t help here because these events are not going to draw big crowds (no one is going to travel to go see a FT10, so the crowd is not an issue), and as far as I can see there isn’t any coaching either.
Just seems like a non-issue that you’re trying to make a big deal out of, that you wouldn’t have any chance of enforcing at a real tournament (where thousands of matches are happening and people are literally standing at the player’s shoulders)
I don’t think it should be allowed. If you didn’t do your homework on the match up, or your opponent and are losing, you deserve to lose. Having someone as a “lifeline” defeats the purpose of a tournament.
Then it boils down to who has better coach when two equal players are against each other. What if the other player doesn’t have a coach? How would that be fair in a tournament that is supposed to be 1 on 1? Maybe team battles like 3 on 3 I can see if it is your teammates coaching you as they have a vested interest in winning as well.
Shit like this is part of the reason why I left the tournament scene (me sucking and disliking all the tournament games are a huge part too though haha).
Eh boxers and cage fighters get pep talks in between rounds.At the end of the day regardless of the advice he/she is given they still have to go out there and execute which is what its all about
boxers and cage fighters also work specifically with a coach throughout their career. They can’t get a match without a coach. Should we now disallow anyone from entering a tournament without a coach?
I don’t see why you should have a say in it at all if you’re not part of the tournament scene. You’re over here talking about what “we” should and should not allow, as though you should have any say in the matter.
You shouldn’t. This is why I’ve said it should be left up to the players who have money on the line. Not me, someone who doesn’t compete at a high level. Not you, someone who isn’t even part of the tournament scene. And not the OP, someone who can’t even grasp something as simple as the definition of cheating.
Well then I’ve already quoted numerous pro players who have opinions against coaching.
If you happen to know of any pros (other than the biased Trinity) that are in favor of coaching, be my guest.
Meanwhile, we are not concerned about how low you think of your own opinions. If you see it’s worthless, that’s your problem and not ours.
Anything bringing wisdom or truth to the table will be held in high regard. Be it from a kid, an ill person, an old hag, a tree, or whatever. You can’t belittle our opinions just because their different from yours.
The question stands if by the grace of god @gaagaa goes to Evo and manages to be anything other than a pot monster will anyone go up on the stage to coach him?