Rant about the quality of online kof players

Current Fighting Games King of Fighters
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What does offline play have to do with learning more? You’re not playing the guy standing next to you, you’re playing the characters they are using. You can’t tell how they handle pressure etc from what’s displayed on the screen? I know when I’m at a tournament I’m not looking at my opponent, or even concerned with the noise pollution. All that shit doesn’t exist when I play.

Also if online play is so damn bad, how can I transition between online and offline no problem. Both feel the same to me, so I think some of you are full of shit. Plus I’ve never seen you play online Dark Geese, so how the fuck can you make such a judgment? You’re like a kid that won’t eat vegetables he’s never tried…

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ok mongoloid, so i can have a lag free game with somebody in china when im in western europe? gtfo.

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Wow again why do I have to repeat myself over and over and over? (I posted a reply to your response hell even in the 98UM FE thread but seems I gotta post it here again because my God) Sigh I simply am not going to keep doing this over and over and over again.

Reread what Desmond posted Necro- Offline you gotta deal with the pressure, just because you may not have had any pressure at RS Ohio doesn’t mean there is no pressure at tournaments son. If I have to explain to you what pressure is at tournaments then quite simply it isn’t worth me explaining sorry. Yes I have played KOFXII online son and I have even in Mexico seen a few of my friends play online on GGPO and Supercade, and based off what I have seen sorry but you can’t tell me offline and online are the same, if you wanna tell me offline and online are exactly the same I’m sorry but this discussion is over.

The pressure and dealing with stuff like that alone even if online was perfect I still take offline, real men are made in environments where everyone is against them and there is pressure on the line, some people fold under pressure, some people excel under pressure. That’s like playing a shooting game simulation online and trying to say it’s the same shit as actually being in a combat situation or a war, not even close. If someone wants to say that the discussion is over. **If you honestly believe that you are slapping all of our men and women in the armed forces that have not only died for this country and all other countries depending on where you are from, but are out there serving you!!!
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I mean it’s not like this is an episode of GAMER with Ludacris and Gerard Butler!!!
Playing online even under perfect circumstances lag free, is still not the same as playing offline under pressure and stuff like that. Again if you haven’t experienced what I am saying then you need to travel more and get in REAL situations, go play REAL talent, and then you will see what pressure feels like.

As I said in the 98UM FE thread, go get in a position where you got the crowd shouting against you and shit like that in an offline atmosphere and stuff of that nature and then start talking to me about offline and online being the same…

Some people handle that stuff better than others…and that is part of what defines a Champion. Online do you have to deal with that shit? Also just because YOU may be able to tune out the crowd possibly at a tournament doesn’t mean everyone else can, you must realize that, not everyone is like YOU.

I don’t really think so. Until any of you can grasp that concept about offline then we really have nothing to discuss then do we? I guarantee everyone that is experienced with offline knows EXACTLY what I am talking about too…

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So I hear there is this Godlike SSF4 ONLINE player by the name of Sako who had all this SSF4 kidz riding his dick and sucking his ball cause he won this “Major” online tournament name Godsgarden. Well he was invited to come to America and participate at SoCal Regionals in an OFFLINE tournament, it turnsout that in this offline tournament he didn’t even make top 8, So weird right? this wasn’t even a national tournament most of the competition was from the west coast only, on top of that this guy by the name of Justin Wong got 2 perfects on him and Justin didn’t even place top 4. Don’t get me wrong Sako know how to play the game I’m not going to take any credit from him and his execution is godlike, but I’ll put my money on any top US Offline player over him anyday.

True story

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Plus I am going to go further, when you play offline in a tournament there is SOMETHING ON THE LINE, can you really say that about online? There are too many variables online for someone to truly take it seriously and hold it as the best standard. Online is good for learning the game and gaining some confidence, but there are things you have to learn outside of your house like dealing with pressure.

Also when I talk about pressure Necro try leaving the state of Ohio…that’s right…try going somewhere where YOU ARE NOT ON YOUR HOME TURF, like Minnesota where you gotta deal with Desmond on his turf after what you said and prove yourself against others waiting to play against you, you wanna talk pressure, THAT’S PRESSURE.

In addition when you are in tournaments you put your reputation on the line, and you have to deal with the repercussions win, lose or draw. Without going into that too much deeper than I already have in the past, hopefully you learned something about YOURSELF at RS Ohio, you personally told me you were too cocky and you learned that about yourself…GOOD…that is my point, as Desmond says tournaments are like Final Exams, online is like the SAT Prep tests, you can SIMULATE ALL DAY what it’s like but you really don’t know until you get there and take the exam!

The more prepared you are the better, so AGAIN I encourage people to learn by whatever means necessary, not just limiting themselves to online, and I know some people for many circumstances cannot do that…but if you can I believe you SHOULD.

Oscar-** Is Hummer the KOF version of Sako??? LOL we will see!!!** (Though Hummer plays offline lol)

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yeah because sako never won any ofline tourneys and how he isnt considered the best or top 3 players of all time by the actual top players in this game. lol yeah.

and dg, no hate but you should get off the nutts of your armed forces. fighting countries that dont even fight back, killing unarmed and poor civilians, killing so that the upper rich tier of your country gets richer while the rest still gets fucked. fuck your armed forces, seriously. the exact mentalitty that makes me think twice before i give any american any sort of respect.

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But that my friend is the problem of politics, as a Marine Brat (Father was a Captain in the US Marines) and having spoken to many Marines, even Royal Marines from Great Britain I can tell you this much- That’s what happens when you mix politics with Military, the two should not be mixed. In other words that’s the problem of the President/Commander in Chief.

And before you say well the military should not listen to him then, you have to understand in the military that is a federal offense, remember the Commander (General McChrystal) that did not agree with President Obama? He decided to step down and resign over what would’ve been a court martial.

As a soldier you are taught to obey commands without question, and though it may lead to things like you say, at the same time it creates cohesion within the unit, one mind set, decreases the chance of death because you are reacting/anticipating instead of thinking, etc.

I mean I guarantee you there are American soldiers that feel the way you do, even with their pride for the USA, but they are sworn not to speak about such things…and they do not for various reasons, ontop of what I said you have such things as compromising the mission, which has become an issue with WikiLeaks, the problem with speaking about classified information is that it puts people’s lives at risk…those on those particular missions.

Also when I say it’s disrespecting the armed forces, I am talking in general, anyone saying online and offline is the same is disrespecting their armed forces in THEIR COUNTRY. They are disrespecting all armed forces in all countries!

I mean if online and offline were the same why the hell do we have the NFL/NBA/other things? We should all just sit at home and play online instead of doing it in real life, less hassle right? Think about that people.

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I hope you know what you are talking about because Sako said at SoCal Regionals that he had never attended an SF4 or SSF4 OFFLINE tournament before in his life. Yeah he played Darkstalkers in the past but whatever he calls him self an online player now. Also being consider a top player by top players doesn’t make you a top player WINNING tournaments makes you a top player or atleast placing top 4 FYI, and I can tell you that any day Sako comes to america he will not place top 4 at any US Major. So yeah LOL!!!

However much love and respect to Sako, because unlike our pussy KOF Online players who don’t have a physical form, the day Sako was offered a full paid trip to the US to participate at SoCal regionals he said yes. If I recall DG offered a fully paid trip to this one guy from Canada to the US to participate at tournament and he declined.

Stay FREE KOF GGPO, stay free… lol

P.S. So if Sako wins random online tournaments every once in a while, does that make him better than the person who wins SBO? I thought SBO was the tournament which decided who the best players in the world are? Think about it kidz, it’s just a thought.

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LMFAO at Oscar’s reply…pure comedy…but the truth.

But real talk Sako gets respect either way, win, lose, or draw, because he SHOWED UP. Something else some of you fail to see!

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but oscar you forgot 1 important thing, sako did play vanilla at the cades. and another thing, dude had by far the highest win rate of any arcade player in japan, dude had like 94 or 96% win rate in japanese arcades with his sf card. sako > wong any day of the week. winning a couple matches agaist somebody who never played you isnt an accoplishment, even if that somebody is sako. top players do lose, in fighters everybody loses at a point. also you do realize almost all the top pllayers also play online.

and lol at that emil comment, dude, you get a free trip to play kof and you decline? damn.

last short point to dg, you do realize that if and when you applie for the army your basically giving away your life to serve those who fuck over the rest. it means your just as crooked as that person. theres 2 huge differences between soldiers, soldiers that defend their country when its invaded are real men imo. soldiers that fight and give their lives so that the upper tier can get their opium for the meds industry and getting oil for these other bitches are bitches themselves. there is no way to justify invading countries on baseless assumptions. it wasnt cool when hitler did it, it aint cool when bush does it. thats it. if your against hypocrits, you gotta be against that shit all of the time and not become one yourself.

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I agree with you on that MC, I just tell people they have to realize the person calling the shots is the Commander-In-Chief…

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Good point he did play at the arcades but he never participated in an tournament, now his win ration could proly be the highest but that alone doesn’t prove much. Again I do consider Sako a top player but not one of the best and I’m pretty sure Sako doesn’t live near Tokyo where the highest level of SF4 is consentrated. Let me give you another example, who do you think is #1 in the SSF4 ONLINE leader boards? I personally don’t know lol, but I am pretty sure that is not going to be Justin, Valle, Marn, Ricky… you see where I am going? There’s a reason for that.

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Both of them had the same chance of winning, Wong didn’t play against Sako either before. Is a tournament.

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Now let us take the 98FE discussion here, as I was telling Necro, bottom line as I have seen in the past and I am very sure many of you can attest, when I prove something wrong like the attitude that “random Japanese players can go to Mexico and win for free” people get quiet, don’t give anything I say/do any credit, and then change their tune. This is something I have noticed for a very long time now, so I am going to say this- what is going to happen if Hummer loses? You guys are going to ignore it, and give it no credit whatsoever because that is what you guys do, you look for excuses and ways to get around the particular idea that YOU COULD BE WRONG.

Mark my words on this, the day I see you guys even do HALF of what me and Lecter did at JuareZ WarZone when Esteban beat Alexis is the day I say we will be making progress.

I admit when I am wrong but you guys NEVER DO, there are always some changes to the story, some excuses, or something like that and that is what I was saying in the FE thread basically.

This prevailing attitude that again the Mexicans do not stand a chance against the Japanese at all that even a random Japanese player could come into Mexico and win for free has been prevailing here for years and years and years, and it is JUST NOW that I notice this attitude starting to change, but I get the “silent treatment”, which to me I guess is okay, but not how I think it should be done.

And you know this attitude has been existing when you even got someone like KHANNIBAL talking about it…they hear it too in Mexico from you guys so they RELISH the opportunity to shut you guys up once and for all and gain the respect THEY DESERVE.

Just man up people and admit when YOU WERE WRONG…If you call Hummer winning everything if you are wrong say so, don’t get salty or dissappear like a little baby, take your losses like a man!!! Respect for that!

If Hummer wins I am going to say he won fair and square, just like we did when Esteban beat Alexis at JuareZ WarZone.

Ever since Alexis has been running a tear on Esteban though do you hear Emil coming in here saying Alexis beat Esteban fair and square? Do you hear him giving credit to what I said about Alexis being better than Esteban? He isn’t…that is my point, the silent treatment, it is said to someone on a chat or somewhere else but not in public when you gotta actually lower your EGO and admit YOU WERE WRONG.

Now I don’t mean to single you out Emil, but that is one example of MANY that I could list from people that give the silent treatment and dissappear when they are wrong instead of being a Man about it…

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It’s funny how every post DG makes has like 18 paragraphs where he contradicts himself within the same post, and he expects people to read his garbage.

Then you have people like THE_ANSWER who call themselves a top player for a game nobody plays/has access to and can’t win a tournament hosted for it. Hilarious.

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I think cows will fly the day emil rectifies for anything,loool

and for some of you that think offline is test of all tests I can name two thing that makes me a better player offline.

1.The stick, although I’ve managed to not move the stick around or throwing it out of the window while doing motions over the years, it’s still a little difficult to have it still so my execution can’t be 100% accurate while playing online.

2.lately I tend to rage when I get to play on ggpo and lose,lol. That’s a bad habit, you lose focus and you gameplay suffers. For instance I can’t do this offline even if I wanted to. so offline I mostly suck it up and continue playing, I stayed concentrated and my overall play usually increases.

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I think its even MORE funny when people like you come in and dont read shit and make me have to repeat myself over and over just because you have selective viewing. Don’t get salty on me because you are lazy now…lol.

Hey I will say this, I am not perfect, but least I’m out there doing something son, and for that, I will always be greater than you and the majority of players like you that do nothing but talk the talk but don’t walk the walk…remember that!!! Something to take to with you the day you go to see your Maker! =)

I have said this once before LeRaldo, Knowledge is Power, Ignorance is Slavery…so it would be in your best interest to read, but then again I digress, the attitude of a predominant few to do nothing and sit back but critique is one of the main things holding the USA Community back…

And again don’t get salty, just take it for what it is, I am speaking to not just you, but to the majority of a certain ideal holding this US Community back just because they talk the talk but don’t walk the walk and degrade those doing the walking…an attitude I really don’t cross that much in Mexico, if they are gonna talk the talk, they show up and back it up, all it is to it…not this

Crap you see here that is part of the reason why it’s hard to take you guys seriously…many of you are like a bunch of blood sucking leeches just looking for the next victim to leech onto, and in turn you are sucking the blood out of the community and detracting potential new players, because all you do is say shit like they should “Quit playing” Or mock beginners learning to play or shit like what I am reading here now.

I can say this much, at least in Mexico I don’t have to deal with this shit, and funny is me and DeadlyRave Neo were just talking about this on the phone the other day, he thinks I should “come back” to the USA Scene…I was telling him it would depend on 13, but people like you remind me why I think I made the best choice…And that’s all that needs to be said.

Ruwaka_Kaede: You are right, as I say some people handle pressure better than others, and offline is a major test of this.

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If knowledge is power then why are you constantly typing in run on sentences?

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Lol did you see me running in here when Esteban won? No…because I don’t really care for it much and just winning/losing isn’t what my arguments are about.

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First of all, Sako has been on the arcade scene for many years. He also qualified for SBO for many years for a wide variety of games, including 3S, ST and Vampire Savior.

Don’t know who is currently first, but players like Daigo, Tokido, GamerBee, Momochi, Mago and the like, are at the tops of the boards…why do you think that is?