The amount of work/reward ration is Far too skewed in Cammy’s favor in my opinion. Cammy is easily one of the easiest characters in the game while Chun is one of the hardest.
The thing with Chun is that her top tier stuff is locked behind some execution barrier. I will say that Chun is a lot of work compared to R.Mika too. I had to be a Chun main to get good results with her and now Mika is almost the secondary. Cammy on the other hand is one of the easier to pick up so i think she could work better as an alt.
You also have to believe that the crybabies will get Chun nerfed to the ground soon so i say Cammy is a safer bet all around.
I need an alt too. I was thinking Nash/Guile/Chun. Maybe I’ll go Cammy, much easier to learn than Guile/Chun. I have a decent Nash but just don’t feel to play him. Cammy is so glass canon though.
I sometimes miss Chun’s combo into SBK which annoys me. I got everything else down.
One thing I am starting to see Knuckle Du doing is whiff punishing and empty buffering with St. HP in the neutral.
St.HP have more range than cr.HP so it can be used to whiff punish from a further distance, plus being heavy is fantastic as it won’t get CCed that easily.
How likely (and what sort of) nerfs is Mika likely to get in S2? I kinda want to try playing her but I don’t want to put in the time if she’s going to get nerfed into the ground and/or have her playstyle completely changed up come S2
^^ For me, other than her, Cammy, Chun, Necalli, Ken and Ryu gonna get some nerfs.
I think f Hp will be less positive on block, as well as her corny carry tools will be reduced space wise (ex peach + passion throw). Actually, my biggest concern is if they take out the wall bounce. It’d be her dead for me :bawling:
Do you really think they are going to nerf mika? I mean I see a lot of people say you blink once and you’re dead, but isn’t that true for damn near all the cast? She hasn’t dominated the pools exactly either… You may see a Mika do well here or there, and no one ever gives the player the credit, even though these few Mika allstars are the ONLY ones who can actually put in work with her. People say Ken does a lot, but he takes work, and then they don’t think Mika does? Bronze level fools if ya ask me.
I don’t think Capcom will come across with any meaningful nerfs to Mika unless they do a lot of balance adjustments on everyone. Even then I’d expect their changes more neutral then either buff or nerf. Maybe they will take away some frames here, or give it some frames there, or change the size of x and y hitbox, but really what is there to legitimately gripe about with Mika?
I think it’s going to be about the same as El Fuerte with 4. He was rarely used for a while, then had his ult2 nerfed because it was “too easy to land” but even with a bit of damage taken away he could put in work. RSF never got touched, and similarly I am confident that Mika’s corner resets and passion press / wall bounce won’t be touched either.
Anyways, I do think that Mika is going to get nuked and not only nerfed. I really think she was never meant to be this strong of a character. The way i see it is that cr.HP being able to be plus on block is gonna get removed somehow. I can see them making her F+MP being much worse as footsies tool as it is a bit too strong now IMO. I think that F.HP will probably be toned down to +1 only or maybe neutral at block. I can see them dealing a damage nerf to her EX Rainbow typhoon. Might also bring her HP down to 900.
I don’t think the will remove her corner pressure as it was clearly intended from the start.
That is a lot of stuff, I feel like if that’s true then she becomes significantly worse. I’m interested to see how it plays out, because if Capcom is throwing out the banhammer left and right I’ll probably just sit this one out. Is she even considered to be a top 5 character? It’d be strange to give her all those nerfs otherwise…
The “Mika’s brain dead” army is spreading as never… even some most popular players (KBrad, Tampa Bison) are bitching about her. Of course I don’t wanna see her nerfed, and I also know how tough is winning against a senior shoto, Cammy, Guile, Chun, Alex and even Gief player as her. I’m just trying to be ready to the nerf hammer, since bitches ask for that since Marn’s bullshits (aka mixups) months ago. The point is, how to nerf Mika without turning her into garbage tier?
@Raccon I think at worst she is going to be a Laura tier character or maybe Alex. She just really fits the meta as it stands right now, and these characters fit as well. I have seen people call her braindead a lot since they refuse to learn the matchup and will like to complain about her just like Justin above.
She can be played in a " Brain dead " capacity but capable players would be able to shut that down completely. Mika and Chun and to a lesser extent ( Nash but less so nowdays ) are in this boat of mindless hate from drones. Mika is by far the most hype character in SF5, bar none IMO ( Maybe Urien cuz of V-trigger is up there).
I just want to be realistic about how it is gonna go, I will keep playing her regardless of what will happen. Mika is one of the most fun characters i ever played in a Fighting game. People who play shotos or other characters simply don’t understand the fun level in using something like her V-trigger. It is so dynamic and give you so much options and openings to work with, it is amazing to use.
I think the mid-screen removal of her passion press might happen but i don’t think it is that gigantic of a hit to her since you can still pull them to the other side and combo with EX peach anyways. Sure it is less damage but you know, it is not the end of the world.
I like wrestling, I like tough chicks and Mika got it all perfectly. I am someone who uses JC in TTT2 and even used Tina in the 30 minutes that i played in DOA5. Female wrestler is an instant main for me.
I don’t know where you are from but from what i have seen, Americans bitch and complain 99% of the time and usually about anything. You have players like Flash wanting to convince you that Vega is a bottom tier character and LI Joe saying that Nash wasn’t a dominant character at EVO’s time despite having 3 Nash players in top 8.
I’ll main her whatever happens. I’m that kind of player who invest my whole time in one char, even if at the end I’ll suck. I still don’t get why people insist to bitch on her “lottery”, meanwhile Necalli and Ken, for example, can do worse, since they got at least good reversals. Why all these silents about Alex? He can be dangerous in close range as Mika is. first come, first served
About being capable to turn on the brain dead mode, c’mon, technically everybody in this can play at guesses, so what’s the point? Sure she’s, next to Ibuki, more mixups e resets than the rest, but the game’s meta was built on this! What people want, that command grab being punishable with a cc? :annoyed:
Yeah that’s why I’m really interested to see if she gets touched, because if she gets nailed it will signal that Capcom is nerfing whimsically instead of logically. I’ve been playing her recently and she’s definitely annoying and a solid character, but off the top of my head I can think of a good amount of shit I’d touch before I hit Mika (to be honest I think she adds a ton of flavor to a game that is bland in a lot of areas). Granted I’m no expert, but right now the biggest thing to me that stands out as dumb about her is her 6Mp, and tbh I’m not sure how they would change that without really fucking her over…
Look i get that Mika is fun for people but for others like myself it’s not fun. I know the matchup and it still isn’t fun all it amounts to is playing the neutral perfect and trying to K.O Mika before she claps and puts you into the corner and then guess on wakeup. Even if you guess the resets right you’re still in a mixup situation between throw or st mp into clap and if one of them hits it puts you right back into the corner. Grrr mika makes me salty
