Question about demonflip setup

Can someone tell me how exactley to do the hard-to-blockable after a throw in the corner demon flip -> K

Things like how to time it (with a normal or not) the spacing, which demon flip to use (L M H) ect ect.

I’ve seen Tokido do it often in the past but for some reason I cant find a video of he doing it at the monet.

I havent played much of akuma since the orignal AE and kinda trying to “rerlearn” it in 2012.

Also no a side note does Akuma have a safe jump setup after a forward throw mid screen whit demon flip punch. I’ve managed to get some slow reversal wiff like (goukesn ex tatsu for example) whit forward throw dashx2 light demon flip P but I get hit from things like EX headbut (maybe I misstimed it).

Thanks.
jiz.

Can’t help you with the first question because I’m not familiar with the character specific situations of the DF dive kick corner setups.

As for the other question, after forward throw x 2 dashes then MK DF palm, if done as fast as possible you will be able to:

  • Safejump 7 frame reversals against characters with normal wakeup time (this used to be 5f pre AE v2012 throw nerf).
  • Safejump 6 frame reversals vs characters who wakeup a frame slower after forward throw
  • Safejump 5 frame reversals vs characters who wakeup 2 frames slower after forward throw (such as Cammy and her 5 frame Canon Spike).

Honda’s wakeup time is normal and his EX HB is an 8 frame reversal, so you’re definitely mistiming the setup and not doing it fast enough because you should be able to safejump it without any issues.

After demonflip in the corner u simply dash once and do hk demonflip > divekick, this is not an unblockable whatsoever, it is simply a fake cross up that works on specific characters only, those are (the ones i recall atm): Sagat, cammy, zangief, gouken, t.hawk, sakura, guile, rose, fei long and a few more that im not sure of.

However, by now everyone knows this setup, so its really useful against those who dont, but for some reason u still c high level players still get hit by it, its because u can alter the setup if they start blocking differently so it becomes a 50/50 setup. So if u r playing someone who knows this setup and blocks it normally and not as a cross up u simply switch to to hk demonflip > palm and go for hp > hadoken > fadc…etc this works coz they r anticipating a demonflip kick which hits in the front, so u surprise them by hitting them from the other side.

P.S. There is also a similar setup that works on most the characters above: after lk tatsu sweep or just sweep in the corner u go directly for hk demonflip > divekick, again this hits in front like the one above even though akuma looks like he is gonna cross up :slight_smile: