Qanba R4RAF stick/buttons Sensitivity question

So I recently purchased a Qanba R4 and have been curious about something. I have always felt there was something rather odd about the stick and buttons and after passing around my circle of friends we have discovered that everything is just REALLY sensitive. I have recently switched sticks temporarily and have been using my friends SF x Tekken Fightstick Pro and I have found I do WAY better. I was researching it and discovered they SHOULD have the same parts. So what can I do to remedy the situation? I dont mind potentially opening everything up and replacing the stick and buttons because I feel that the stick as a whole is great. What are everyones thoughts about this? Can anyone give me any insight into why they are so sensitive?

The thing is sanwa buttons are some of the most sensitive buttons there are. The difference in sensitive between the sticks could come down to the usage of the switches in the buttons. You may want to look into seimitsu buttons as they are less sensitive than sanwa.

The case makes a huge difference when swapping out different sticks and buttons. Most people who’ve used my stick are really curious as to what mods I made to it, since they love my Qanba Q4RAF over most Mad Catz and Hori products, and are amazed to find out that it’s all stock.

That being said, Sanwas are considered extremely sensitive buttons to begin with. Your best options are a) get used to it, or continue to use your stick, and eventually the buttons will sort of get ‘broken in’, or b) buy a stiffer switch or Seimitsu buttons to alter the feel.

I would buy other buttons if I knew what buttons were in there. I have been told at my local tournament arcade that they could be Seimitsu buttons because they are super sensitive and cheap feeling. Thats why I want to know what buttons come stock in the SF x Tekken Fightstick because they are exactly how I want them to feel. They both advertise they are Sanwa buttons, I don’t know which one is lying!

Take off the bottom metal plate from your stick, you can tell what buttons they are just by looking at them. But I’m telling you now - if you got the standard stick new they will be Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons, the same as on the Strekken stick you tried. If you got a special edition then they will probably be OBSC-30 (these do feel different to OBSF-30).

Why the difference in feel? elftrouble explained this perfectly above.

I wonder if the difference is just between the OBSC and the OBSF. Good point.

The difference in feel is very noticeable for me. My buttons on the Qanba feel super sensitive, fairly cheap, and not very sturdy at all. The buttons on my friends SF x Tekken stick feel sturdy, hardy, and responsive. Like I am hitting an actual BUTTON. Its kind of hard to describe.

Ok, but you keep repeating yourself while not doing anything about it.

Open your stick up and find out what buttons they are.

Also, Seimitsus are noticeably less sensitive than Sanwas, and they’re not “cheap feeling”. They just have a more mechanical thud to them. If they’re both stock sticks, they both come with exactly the same set of buttons.

You are not imagining things :). I feel that it has something to do with how the Qanba Q4 is constructed. The Qanba has that hollow/mushy feel when pressing the buttons while the Madcatz sticks have a more solid rigid feedback giving the buttons and stick a more responsive feel.

I also own the fightstick pro and the VS stick. When comparing the Madcatz sticks to the Qanba I can definitely feel that the Madcatz sticks has a more solid construction overall.

When I use my Qanba Q4RAF I find myself checking if I pressed the button or not. The Fightstick Pro gave me a better solid response. I went back to using the Fightstick Pro (or the VS) for this reason.

I found out why this is. Its because the Madcatz use the OBSF buttons where as the Qanba uses the OBSC buttons. I am going to pick up a set of OBSF buttons and see what the deal is.

You keep saying stuff. Have you even opened up your stick and confirmed which buttons you have?

What version of the qanba did you get, if you got the standard one than it should have obsf buttons. I think only the special edition has obsc buttons. Anyway as gahrling has said it’s better to open your case and make sure.

Just for your information my Qanba has the OBSF buttons.

Yellowcan is right. Only the special editions of Qanba Q4Raf comes with those OBSC (clear top) buttons.

Well this makes perfect sense. I have the limited edition ice blue! Now that that’s solved, how do I go about tightening my stick?

Doesn’t the obsf and obsc both use the sw-68 microswitch, so they should be the same. If you don’t like the sensitivity of sanwa, then I would try seimitsu out. They are stiffer and feel more like your actually pushing a button. You can try the obsf but they’re extremely sensitive just like the obsc.

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. The only difference between the OBSF and OBSC is one is translucent hence the “C for clear” in OBSC. There should be no difference in sensitivity.

I have stated to TacticalLamp that it’s the way the Qanba Q4RAF is constructed. The Fightstick Pro and Qanba Q4RAF are both plastic but the Fightstick Pro doesn’t flex at all. It could also be that the Madcatz sticks uses better metal on on the surface of the stick?

Not really sure but if you ask anyone that owns both Madcatz sticks and Qanba Q4Raf. They will say that the Qanba Q4Raf has a hollow feel to it.

I can see what you mean about the hollow feel, but even the start button for me feels better than the OBSC buttons. Ill have to see if my friend can open up his stick and swap buttons with me for some experiments.

On another note, how does one tighten a joystick?

The plastic used is different and the microswitch was altered. This changes the feel.

All new Sanwa buttons now contain the same re-designed microswitch, however they are physically different from the microswitches used a year ago.

I wouldn’t.

Not sure what you guys are on about, but my Qanba has been universally-praised for feeling extremely solid and sturdy.