Public Shooting and GC Thread: Active Shooter reported at LAX

That’s why I called her a substitute earlier in the thread. They said no one in the school knew her. If she was a substitute the district would have record of her working there, not the school. If there is no record at all then that’s fishy.
As far as homeschool, maybe the district or school didn’t have the resources to address his form of autism (which isn’t rare).
Like I said earlier, I’m still waiting to hear about what actions were taken if he was diagnosed.

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I can’t. I just can’t understand why.

Thanks, someone mentioned assault rifles in an earlier post, I’m not really up on the details of the story. Pistols actually make more sense.

And make it that much more disgusting knowing this nutjob actually executed each of the 18 children :frowning:

According to this there were injuries from the rifle…
Also mom loved guns and would go to the range with her son to practice

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I agree completely, but not for the reason you’re suggesting. I think the government has a reason to fear its citizens using their first amendment rights, drumming up massive support for a social cause, especially if it’s combined with international pressure. I think it *might *be afraid of the declining power of religion over the masses (although A. Huxley even in the 1950s was claiming that religion had been effectively replaced by nationalism and state worship, so that actually seems like an upgrade as far as the government is concerned). I think history has shown them that change can be effected through peaceful means and that might scare them a little, but the US government, with its sophisticated propaganda machine and system of control, being afraid of citizens armed with what might as well be bows and arrows compared to military technology…I don’t think it’s particularly high on their list of threats. Anytime it has been they’ve enacted gun control anyway- the Black Panthers in the 60s and 70s, for example. That’s not the kind of gun control I agree with.

It’s hard for me to classify making it difficult for a schoolteacher to obtain a mini arsenal as penalizing her. Doctors have to go through intense training to get licensed. Same with professors, electricians, etc. I want it to be hard to get a gun, and even harder to get multiple guns. I would think responsible gun owners would be ok with putting up with the inconvenience, as they of all people know the possible ramifications of their weapons. Yeah, I know her son stole her guns, but would she have even had them if she had to go through training and periodically update her license? I don’t know, it’s just speculation at this point.

Are you suggesting that someone who has never commited a crime be denied the right to own a gun? Someone being classified as “unstable” (by the government, of course), which is subject to all kinds of abuse, is a better solution to you? That seems like a much more disturbing government intrusion than a reasonable form of gun control. Especially considering that they’d probably be put on medication with the side effects of suicidal, violent thoughts, in which case they could very well go on a stabbing or bombing spree that people seem to think will be as easy as a shooting spree. The fact that all these shooting sprees are indeed *shooting *sprees suggests that they are in fact easier to carry out. If “unstable” means only someone with a history of violence, would that have even caught any of these killers? Maybe young white men or their parents should just not be allowed to have guns, since that would stop like every one of these incidents (that’s a joke). I just think mental evaluations to limit gun ownership are easier said than done. Goodmourning’s idea is good, though, and I’d like to see that implemented.

This…sounds like pretty good gun control, which would almost definitely stop some of these cases. Not all, maybe not this one, but some. I don’t see how this is idiotic, unless someone thinks it’s a failsafe solution that doesn’t need to be combined with other measures. I don’t know if anyone has said that.

Lastly (to everyone), maybe he did only use handguns here. I wouldn’t trust many details yet, especially since it took like 5 years for the Columbine shooters to suddenly change from bullied to bullies while the psychological establishment started to doubt their longstanding assumption that bullies have low self-esteem. But even if it is true, it doesn’t alter all the past shootings with automatic weapons, mostly (all?) obtained legally and apparently pretty easily.

What angers me is that death just seemed too good for the shooter. If the bastard was still alive, I’d rather have him submitted to a procedure of slow torture.

This is exactly the kind of reaction a lot of these people are trying to get

It blows that the cops didn’t get to shoot him.

Well how hard? That’s a question, I know I like to fire as a hobby when the time and money permits. There is that issue of accessibility, some responsible people simply won’t have the time to jump the hoops and beurocracy. If it boils really to several training courses, then by all means, but if it means Australian, Japanese, or European nonsense, totally not it.

I forgot to address the issue of who administers the tests. Is it pro firearm, or is it those who want the abolishing of firearms? Then there is the issue of who is and who isn’t sane, and who and what is given the authority to make those decisions. And of course when I said, “step in the right direction”, it is (not the best, but then again what is), but one must keep in mind these issues if this is the route we go. If it where up to me, current laws are fine enough, and I would actually like some of the cosmetic laws in California to be dealt with, but its obvious that this is going to be a bigger and bigger issue for some people, and people are going to forget that safety comes at personal freedom of them and others. So, this is something I’m willing to take a chance on to ensure that me and other can purchase firearms, a compromise

California does this, and iirc Connecticut, New York, has some version of these laws.

It would help your argument if the term Gun regulation was used rather than Gun Control. Its really the same thing, except semantics, and gun control advocates have really stupid solutions which taints the word.

Sort of like,

Legalizing weed vs deregulation of weed as a schedule 1 substance.

Oh man that’s hilariously bad. I was gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she wasn’t some retarded “gun enthusiast” but I guess I set my hopes to high for someone whose son murdered a bunch of defenseless children.

That “someone” was also murdered by her own son, in her home, with her own weapon, if you didn’t notice.

Her teaching her kids to handle firearms absolutely nothing to do with his behaviour and you damn well know it.

Son did his mom a favor by killing her. She would have gotten so much shit from this.

The son did his brother no favours, though. Now that brother has bury both his brother and his mother.

Adam Lanza stole his brother’s mother and stole the loved ones of 25 other families.

in Europe a lot of gun crimes occur too but mainly from legally owned hunting rifles, not military weapons and mainly in the country side. in remote areas, especially where police presence is scarce and borders are near, a lot of people own rifles (legally and illegally).
for poaching too unfortunately.

Basically. It’s only handguns that are banned in Britain, too. You can still own shotguns and hunting rifles.

True, sawned-off shot guns are illegal though.

the media should be talking about mental health instead of gun control IMO. the guns were obtained legally, by his mother.

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Considering that I’ve met some pretty incompetent teachers, and that we are getting a whole lot of teachers fucking students, then maybe…just maybe giving the teachers easily accessible weapons may not be the best idea.

Some of these people can barely teach and you want them to aim accurately and shoot another human being in a stressful situation?

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