Public Shooting and GC Thread: Active Shooter reported at LAX

I love AP
He says what I think…

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totally agreed

I’ve been a reporter since I could jerk off, working in various newspapers and magazines before I went into marketing. If Qrazy is a reporter she’s either trying to be one, a horribly incompetent one, or lying. Reporters who try to put out profiles like you’re trying to do without proof or knowing all the facts are laughed out of even the smallest dailies. There’s a thing called “investigating” we all have had to do at some point. Try to do that before talking out of your ass.

How can you help these people, they just take take take, they have the whole fucking world already but won’t stop until they tear it apart piece by piece just for a second of gratification. Shit like this is just a physical manifestation of the so called karma getting back at them. Except karma doesn’t really exist in the way you would want it to work so it just ends up hitting the next best thing.

An alleged accident amirite?

I think this is where people tend to differ on the subject. Instead of looking at how to prevent this from happening folks dismiss people with disorders as being something less than human…even people in position to seek out help for them.

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A real one since I’m the one who was involved, talked about it, and no one else has been able to find proof to the contrary. But please, continue.

batman would exact a bit of vengence. that new movie looks meh.

It’s easier to think that could never be you if you dehumanize something you find uncomfortable. Also much easier to treat someone any kind of way if you think they’re less than human.

When you out it that way…they sound hopeless.
I guess the only real answer is you are the product of your environment…There are plenty of people with the same issues seeking help, but it takes active parents to start off seeking it.
But to have guns in the house with him is ignoring the disorder the family knew about…and to buy him those guns shows a real lack of concern for others.

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Gun related deaths and offences are actually down.
So far in 2012 we’ve had 42 gun related deaths, 23 were self inflicted

http://www.gun-control-network.org/

So yeh… :coffee:

Also this is a great chart, just to click the header to reorganise it in descending order http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

USA! USA! USA!

Does it really matter what **states **have regulations if you can buy guns online or drive a few hours to a neighboring state to get whatever weapon you want? That’s not gun control. Physically limiting the amount of assault weapons, for a start, is gun control. Nobody’s saying it’s easy or foolproof, but compared to increasing the mental health care system (which itself does nothing to get at the source), it’s a decent start.

And it would be great if citizens used their guns to fight the increasingly totalitarian governent under which we live, but you know damn well that’s not true. All these people screaming about the second amendment (as if the founding fathers would trust the average citizen, who they considered stupid and needing to be controlled by more intelligent minds, with today’s weapons anyway) didn’t do shit when their fourth amendment was stripped. They don’t seem to have a problem with their children being electronically tracked in school, they don’t opt out of the airport scanners, they don’t put up a fuss about warrantless spying on everyone in the country. Because they know that their guns are useless against the government’s weapons anyway, so I’m calling bullshit on these rabid gun nuts who pussy out at every opportunity to fight the gubmint they hate so much.

Ask all those children in Cambodia that lost their lives to land mines if that shit was an accident you cocksucker.

Wouldn’t it be nice if white privilege protected you from other white people

Yea, it’s funny how she generalizes people 20 and over with single parents thinking people in those circumstances are a red flag but when someone generalizes that all black people are red flags she gets mad.

We don’t know all the facts yet and to make things worse the media is known to not tell the truth.

Him living with his mom didn’t make him a red flag. What about someone who moves out and can’t sustain rent, food, health, etc? Are they more likely or less likely than the person living with a single parent to commit this crime?

Whether living alone or with a parent, that’s not something that automatically makes you decide to shoot up a school and kill children. There was more to this.

oh, cause that’s something he’s done before right?

wrong on both accounts

This, oh n btw Qrazy is part of that media

(It would seem that Firefox finally stopped being a cunt.)

Therefore, mass-manual-multi-quote function has been engaged.

Social Link, gooooo!

It was that long ago? I vaguely remember us bickering about something a lot more recently than that just last year actually, but maybe it’s just because I tend to hold a grudge.

shakes fist at BlodiaVulcan5 and SONY

If we’re civil now, then that’s cool I guess. I don’t expect it to last, but that’s not because of you. That’s more because I figure that everyone will rub someone the wrong way eventually, especially with the Internet making it easier to be assholes to one another, myself included (though I’m pretty much exactly the same in real life if I ever say anything to anyone).

Oh, it’s less that I don’t we should talk about it and a lot more than I unfortunately do not expect it to a) lead anywhere and b) that even if does lead anywhere, lead anywhere good or better given how ignorant and stupid the masses currently are.

Actually talking about it would certainly be a good deal better than the constant escapism & blindness that Neesa and others have pointed out, if only as a change of pace, but I’m not holding my breath either.

Too bad that’s all pretty much everyone who isn’t a direct victim–and even some who are–ever do and, as seen just yesterday with the various vapid commentators in the news, the social media and in this thread, that’s what they’ve already done with this incident.

Maybe they won’t do it with the next one though. [/sarcasm] [/not holding breath]

Glad I’m not only one who thought that, especially with the whole drone issues. Even if at the same time I was wondering if my thinking that it was fake played into the unfortunate double standard with regards to men being able to not express their emotions and even if he actually has kids himself (who have better security than 99% of the country), it was awfully politically convenient regardless. This especially since I don’t think he actually produce visible tear, just wiped new his eye.

As much as I dislike Baynor (or however you spell the current Republican Speaker’s name), he at least openly bawled when his emotions got the better of him.

I’m not sure that says much though: sex isn’t very sexy.

Fixed.

Basically. I woke up to reports that three people had been shot in Oakland’s ghettos just this morning…and no one will continue to really give a shit outside of some people in Oakland itself (and only Oakland itself) saying that “something needs to be done”…and then most of them not doing anything.

Oh well. As much as I don’t want to bring race into this (again), at least we’re not surprised by this.

Oh, you’re from England? I’ll try to remember that.

As for a fatal stabbing being the worst that London experiences, weren’t there quite a few riots just a year ago? I’m not being rhetorical. I vaguely remember there being a few that made even the American news on top of the other vague problems I’ve heard that London and other UK cities have been having with regards to certain immigrant populations and things like that.

I agree with you about the license checks needing to be more thorough here, but unfortunately that would solve very few of the incidents were guns are getting into people’s hands since, as people have said, the majority of guns used in crimes are illegally obtained anyway.

Shrug. Who knows.

Since you brought race into this earlier though, wouldn’t such a weapon fit the stereotypical scared white woman in her desperate search for security, especially with all the fear-mongering American media and politics does? Also, don’t such women stereotypically watch Lifetime, which basically just shows them that basically everything is constantly out to rape them?

Shrug. Not saying it’s an answer or at least the answer, which we’ll probably never know since she was the first victim of her own weapon, but fuck Lifetime either way.

I don’t get this at all. Even if he was on his own and really resented his mother for some completely unrelated reason he would have gotten to the guns unless she was actively keeping her weapons locked away.

Just stop the nonsense.

If he didnt have access to a gun he wouldnt have been able to kill anyone?

Timothy mcveigh used no guns…
Lets ban ammonia and fertilizer now as well, that shit kills.