I’m lolin’ hard over here.
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Keep up dude.
We’re not talking about guns sold in stores.
I’m not a male, I also did not live with her when I turned into an adult. As a matter of fact I lived own my own.
When my brother was the only male in the house (after her divorce) she leaned on him like he was her husband and still tries to even though he has a family of his own and she is able bodied.
My red flag? I don’t deal with my mom or dad like that. What ever issues psychology attribute to that (trust issues, overly independent, etc) apply. None of which would have me taking other folks out, let alone kids.
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Although this cites “parents”.
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Qrazy, stahp, pls, stahp.
For reals, I want to think that you have a good head on your shoulders, you seem cool, you really do.
I was supposed to go away, but circumstances involving my father being a crackhead and breaking into our house after we kicked him kind of warranted my stay.
Then he OD’ed, died, and my mother had a breakdown.
Will I be some kind of killer if I stay behind a year to make sure my mom is mentally stable?
Pls, stahp Qrazy.
My mother (any mother) needing to depend on someone is natural, that’s how humans deal with things, by depending on each other.
I’m a red flag. 
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I also pointed out “unless she is sick”…
Meaning there is an issue preventing her from being on her own.
There is a vast difference between being home with mom because it’s easy, and being home with mom because real life stuff happened.
You can see the difference just by how people post on here. You can tell who has never had a drop of real responsibility versus those posting just to post or simply argue without substance…on the other side you have those who know responsibility on various levels.
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This thread has just been ruined by a useless poster.
Why the fuck would you single out a lone political party? You really sound like a dumbass.
I know people who are just poor.
What if you’re just poor?
Leaders of nations only care about the people of their own nation…if they care about their people at all.
I expected these types of responses, though. Most people lack proper perspective, after all.
That’s part of “real life stuff”.
But I doubt if you were poor, you could afford to buy a gun, let alone any material things folks claim attribute to social disorders (video games, computers, etc.); it’s one thing to have this conversation face to face, is another to have it on the internet with the potential to lie about who or what you are and then when you are faced with real conflict you react in an inappropriate way.
I mean, why do you think there are only trolls online? The closest you get to it in real life is the drunk jerk at the bar.
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(Sorry to hear that SpaceOutNightmare.)
Why do people still keep getting trolled by and responding to Muggle Voldemort? And, no, I’m talking about Qrazy, though I am beginning to wonder if she’s trolling…
Speaking of Qrazy though, I’ll say this kindly, and not just because I “like” Koop: Your expectations for ending this type of situation are way too simplified and naive.
For instance, due to the way the economy is now, many people way past 20 are still living with their parents or were forced to move back in. It’s to point where SugaFree’s standard “nerd-joke” comment isn’t really that good of a joke–not that it ever was–if he was really entirely joking about it in the first place.
Additionally, living with your parents doesn’t mean you can’t make “adult mistakes”, which I don’t think are exactly necessary to prevent one from shooting up a school. That thought might just be me though. It’s rather difficult to tell, really, especially since I have such minority opinions. So my saying that whether or not you’ve made “adult decisions” has nothing to do with deciding to go on a shooting spree might be one of them.
And that’s not even factoring in apartment costs varying by area, additional reasons for staying with one’s parents for “non-standard” years that aren’t entirely monetary, the fact that moving out before 20 wasn’t guaranteed even before the economy went to shit and such. You also seem to be outright ignoring that the news reports, which aren’t all that trustworthy but still what almost everyone–including yourself and myself–has to go off anyway, have been saying the guy had some form of autism.
Autistic people tend to live with their parents for longer than most people, if they ever do move out or are even capable of ever moving out in the first place, since autism also has no (easy) solution; it may not ever have one at all, much like this shooting situation. So while there probably were indeed other “red flags”, staying with his mother wasn’t one of them.
As such, I will say that while you can have your opinion, however much I and everyone else obviously disagrees with it, the very least you can do is stop backseat parenting with a seemingly holier-than-thou attitude like you have all the answers when all you barely have is the “benefit” of myopic hindsight. Save that shit for the Moral Guardians please; it’s all they have left to make themselves feel important.
(I’ll respond to other things, including HoneyBBQGrundle & Huggy Bear, when I get back from the store now that fucking Firefox has allowed me to post on SRK after the past half an hour. Hurray for “upgrades”!)
Qrazy, you’re going to tell me that you don’t know poor people with guns and or access to guns?
I’m going to state my point before we go off topic, being at home or living alone has nothing to do with your crazy psychopathic tendencies, in my opinion.
Sure, you should get your ass in your own place, dorm or whatnot as soon as possible, but the kid who goes " I want to stay at home one more year before I set out into the real world" won’t become some kind of killer.
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That’s this thread now.
People live at home because rent is high, and they don’t want to be in debt. I just recently moved out of my house and into my own. I was able to save money by living at home.
It’s not as simple as “oh now you are 20 move out into the world and accrue a lot of debt”
I saw no real big reason to move out, i paid most of my mom’s bills, i had a good place to stay that was close to work, and my mom did my laundry because she wanted to.
Things might be different for others, but i stayed at home to save money. No shame in that. Plus i am asian, most asians stay at home until they are about to be married…
But wtf does that have to do with a crazy guy killing kids? Nothing. Tons of people live at home. None of those people kill. Tons of people have firearms, but they don’t go out and execute children.
This was a sick and cowardly individual acting alone. I really hope his death was slow and painful
So that’s what you’re gonna tell the parents of the innocent children that lost their lives? “Meh, shit like this happens everyday in Insert 3rd World Country Here… No biggie.”? That’s retarded. A tragedy is a tragedy, no matter what the scale is. Stop comparing them like an inconsiderate idiot.
There is an entire spectrum of autism, and based on the description of him he did not have the extreme case of it. It is possible for people with autism to live on their own and function as long as it is addressed and the person is taught how to work and their type of autism. If he could go to school without help, he did not have the extreme form of it…Meaning of he had help and this was diagnosed early, he could have been on his own (as a matter of fact that is the goal of autism support).
The suggestions I listed wouldn’t solve everything…but it would be a start to filter out some of these explosive mixes that seem to happen far too often.
Trolling? Who? Me?
Who on here is in their adult years living off mom and spending their time being useless that I would want to troll? come on now…You give me too much credit.
Stating there was a red flag isn’t being condescending, red flags can and do have exceptions…in this case not so. That is once again the point to autism support. I have studied and dealt with autism since 2000 and it even changed my scholarly aspects. The worse thing you can do with autism is ignore it and expect the person living with it will eventually grown out of it or cope on his own. At 20 is he wasn’t able to move forward with his life, the decision to have him around guns should not have been taken lightly.
Adult decisions includes how to deal with conflict. As a child you can pretty much react any way you want to with limited consequences. As an adult your actions cause a larger ripple effect. Adult decisions aren’t “should I shoot up a school or not”, that is the end result. Adult decisions come in to play when you have to decide what level of action you should take. There are people out there who never had to deal with anything serious who will simply take their own lives should something serious come up. Once you have decided your life isn’t worth anything, that automatically makes everyone and them at risk.
For some folks living at home, if they were told they had a child on the way they would literally have no idea what to do.
Being at home without motivation mixed in with the autism without support…almost anything could have sparked this in him. Often times autistic children describe it as feeling isolated, lonely, and in their own heads most of the time. That is pressure building up.
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Ah the ol’ Sweden comparison. Too bad that’s a pipe dream in this country. Like you said, EVERYone in the US has guns plus the sheer size of the usa would make adequate enforcement difficult to say the very least.