In the start, I remember everybody saying Hayato was at the bottom of the mid tiers. Why has he jumped to high tier. That’s who I’ve been using since day one. I’m just curious.
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fuckup damage punishment …right after a poke , like c.lk ,c.lk …
qcb-p , can counter various combo strings , especially people that always do combo string rush down …
able to chain roy’s team-up , which does a lil’ more damage than daigo’steam-up chain
less but not least , the invinsible-super which is good players to fool people that use throw or some guy that does an unnecessary close combat and attacks on invinsible-hayato that could counter the attack better than guard-&-tardy . and hayato is a perfect empty-rushdown with the invinsible mode , but use it right after a super …
hayato is more of a turtleing and baiting …
Well, like I said, I’ve been using him since day one. And all of that was pretty much figured out from the start. So I wasn’t sure why people ranked him lower middle tier. I didn’t know if I was just missing something, or people just made quick tiering guesses based on “paper” stats.
Well, thanks for clearing that up.
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Hayato is a monsta’.
He was mad underrated when the game first came out. He’s actually top tier in the classroom stage. Do his air cane swings at the ceiling and watch the retarded damage.
You have no idea how much $$$$ I have taken from so called “Rival School pros” in the early days. :lol: All they needed to hear was that I use Hayato, and they assume easy money. They walk away pissed, calling me cheap, or a combination of the two.
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df+HP -> sj.HK -> sj.(LP, LP, HK) -> sj.(LP, LP, HP) XX HP Cane Swings
RETARDED
Most chars have to use meter to do that kind of damage. He just needs a Tardy Counter. Hayato is the best battery char in the game next to Roberto.
Hayato can chain into Roy’s team up? How do you do that?
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chain dog kick on them , wait for their ass coming down from the air before recover and anal-shot with roy’s team-up .
df.hp , lk , lk,hk , lk , lk,hk , lp , lp,hp , cane-slash …
still hurts
w. Daigo is low? that’s pretty cool to hear because i’ve beaten robertos, kyosukes and d. hyos, may i ask what makes tiffany middle tier?
Daigos are top.
Oh, that. Ok, I should have known that’s what you were talking about. The link. I thought you meant there was some glitch where he could actually “chain” it in like buffer or something. :o Silly me. Yes, it hurts. If memory serves me correct, that combo does 80pts of damage.
But…
Now this, I did not know. Are you saying that Daigo as the main character, has a linkable team up with Roy as the partner? Or are you saying that Hayato as the main character, can link a team up with Daigo as a partner. Because I thik I tried linking every team up to Hayatos df+HK when I first got the game. Roy was the only one I remember working.
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IIRC, if Roy’s works, then anyone that causes the ‘quick uppercut’ starter animation(Hayato, Kurow) should work just as well. I know for a fact all of those work in the Momo double kick setup, and I’ve done Kurow’s with Daigo…
ok here
daigo …
B.hk -> roy/kurow team-up
hayato …
df.hk -> roy/kurow team-up
roy’s team-up is better , very damaging
after roy’s team-up , cheap em’ up with OTGs with qcb-hp with daigo and hayato
yeah , daigo’s not too close to the top …
he hardly have any opportunity to challenge good-players , that pic top-tiers … he’s hard to use …
i’ll fix the tiers again , i think i had a lil’ sarcasm about my tiers …
yurika is undoubtly the 3s chun li in the game
Roy’s doesn’t do that much more compared to Kurow’s, even when mashed. Besides, Kurow’s looks better. =p
fuck comboing into that shit, just use Momo like me and do a regualar combo tha does about 80%. and i u really like comboing into team/party team ups, she can do it with everyone of those
momo is easily defeated …
her jab-o’-death is escapable
her f.hk can be throwed
Hyo > momo …
momo got stunned by a single long range pokes …
and in fact momo get stuns easily
you don’t need to mash buttons while in team-up attacks …
some question …
daigo VS nagare …
who owns anyway ??
daigo does helluva damage with anything
nagare can do 40 hitters on him …
daigo can stun him easily because he’s the only weak male
nagare’s 21 hit which end with the CPR-throw, does the same damage as roberto’s
both are weak in defence …
the other 1 is slow … bad recovery , with many weak spots
the other 1 is quite slow but fine recovery though
characters that get stun easily are
FEMALE
momo
linchyo
hinata and ran
akira
MALE
nagare
kurow
kyosuke AND roberto
edit : i think roy could chain team-up in the middle of his infinite-juggle … but his OTG-Back-flip XX super-twister is sick ass …
like this , lp,lk,hp,back-flip Rush-cancel jab->shoulder-ram, opponent falls and rush close-OTG with back-flip and cancel the move into super-twister . i call that an unescapable-Reset …
that does 55%
while nagare’s 40 hitters does 70% at 1st attack !
bump ?
all right …last weekend is my toughest time to face wit the guy who’s good with yurika …
damn , they guy’s tight … yurika’s defend is difficult to penetrate
especially her air-lp !!
i can win actually , using kyosuke and hyo …
and roberto is impossible to face it …
all the guy do was , crouch , jump-empty …and wait for my attacks
at least i fake and bait him with kyosuke and hyo
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i’m back again …
well the method he play is more of a confusing , he abuse yurika’s c.lp often …
why ? yurika’s c.lp has longer range …and able to reflect opponent’s Projectiles !
and what he do was rush c.lp,c.hp , rush crouch throw …
and that move is unpredictable …
and i have no chance to do jump-in and air-pokes against her …
because yurika’s air-lp has the longest range , i failed to air-throw , i got attack by her air-lp while i try to air-throw her …
because i was out of range to throw her .
he got 14 wins
i got 2 wins …
a very tough match , it’s as worse as KSK VS justim in evo2k2 , alex VS chunli
like most game , to win , never get cornered , and you should be the one cornering your opponent .
ProJus has no corner , so , rush down all the way but don’t get rushed downed by your opponent
and yes , some average player that abuse roberto has no single hope challenging that guy …
that guy who play yurika , he play A3 with rose …
and abuse rose’s CC super , NOT V-ism CC
Isn’t there time for the opponent to recover before he or she hits the ground? I know I would have ample time to recover at sometime during the combo right?
The Roy infinite is actually a loop. You can get a couple reps off, but eventually the opponent is able to tech out. Unless you’ve got a programmable joystick, the timing you need to dash in and connect each lp is pretty strict.
dude: Against Yurika turtles, just run up and throw. Eventually they’ll start trying to poke with lp, crouch, or jump. Seriously, it works. Run up and try to crouch grab a couple of times as well to get him to start moving.
ProJus is like CvS2 in the case that it’s rare that you can safely jump. If anybody jumps in ProJus, you can dash underneath them and launch them from the back since they don’t turn around and track in mid-air. If they empty jump, jumping towards them and throwing stops that.
If he’s out prioritizing you in the air with j.lp, anti-air him. Unless he’s waiting for you to go in the air with him. Depending on the character, you can respond in different ways. Typically characters with air specials (ie: Roberto’s shining save, Kyosuke’s shadow kick, Roy’s air punch, etc) will beat it out.
Yurika = turtlers dream. Good priority and reach with her lps, but if she’s got no meter, correction, if she doesn’t have two meters, she can’t do damage. You just gotta be patient and zone efficiently. Use characters with evasive overheads (Roberto’s b+hk hops of some lows) to get his ass standing.