It’s a bit shady to just change the rules after giving people criteria to follow, especially when there’s a clear winner. Might as well just put all the names in a hat. Hell I might as well just change the rules my self.
Give me my moneys from your broken ass game.
who cares if he wants to change the rules, stop complaining this guy is giving every1 a free chance at 1300 dollars.
I’m not complaining, if that’s what he wants to do then that’s what he wants to do. But doing so is like telling someone to run laps and then changing the rules and saying they lost because they ran the wrong way. And it’s not like I won anyway so I’m not losing out on anything, someone else however is. Either way the game has been played there is only one winner, there is already currently a winner, it doesn’t make a difference to anyone apart from the person who already won the game fair and square.
my bet was conveniently removed…I want my money. I’ll msg you my payment details
I don’t think the change in rules would necessarily create a new winner (unless a person picked Champ to win in the original rules but mentioned people who didn’t appear in the top 32 in the other places), depending on the how the scoring is applied.
This is merely a suggestion, but it would perhaps be more fair if people got all the points available for the picks i.e got the 25 points for picking him in the top 32, the 50 points for having Champ in the top 8, and the 100 points for having him first, so the total for selecting Champ to win being 175 points. This may seem quite outlandish, but I think it is a way to preserve the points of those who may have won according to the original rules, and also to consider that people may have made their lists differently if they were to have used the new pointing system.
(Of course this is just my opinion. I’ve only thought this out in the time that it’s taken me to type this so I’ve admittedly not thought this through thoroughly lol. And I’m not really fussed how this is decided anyway lol. Either way, this competition was fun, and an extremely generous gesture, that brought some more excitement to an already exciting finals so thank you mictyson10 
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Changing the rules DOES make a new winner.
[details=Spoiler]With specific placement, if someone had the order: FChamp, ChrisG, JustinWong, Flocker, Combofiend, (other 5th), (7th), (7th)
They would only get 100 Points for FChamp, and that’s it.
With the new rules, they would get 100 + 50 + 50 + 50 + 50 = 300 Points.
Meanwhile someone who guessed just let’s say, ChrisG and FChamp, correctly; they would get 160 points with the old scoring system.
But the new rules make it 300, just like the guy who guessed the order completely wrong.
So say that two people had those 5 in common, but in different order. (Most people had at least 4 out of those 5, sometimes all 5)
As long as FChamp was marked as 1st place, they would now receive the same amount of points, regardless of the order they picked the remaining 4.
So now the only thing that makes a difference is how many people they guessed randomly appeared in the remaining 24 slots of the top 32.
To make things slightly worse, it doesn’t matter yet again the order of those slots either!
So for example Yipes, many people had place really high. He got knocked out in the top 17, but people would get a full 25 points for placing him at 9th or so.
And since superwii64cube had Stone, AND PZPoy in his list… I don’t see anyone else coming close to his score. (Since he had a lot more of the staple 32s in there)
Only 3 people total picked Stone in their lists, and Nobody but him picked PZPoy
He did have Stone in the right spot, but it was in a spot where 8 people could have reached. This is why it was only worth 10 points in the original scoring system. But now this “Spot” was increased from 8 possibly people to 24 possible people, and the “Points” were increased from 10 to 25.
PZPoy he underestimated, and got a higher placement then he thought.
He guessed a 15point, 4 person spot. But the correct answer was a 20 point, 4 person spot.
But with the rule change, it’s just like the above; a 24 person spot worth 25 points.
And with the suggestion, without thinking too hard, doesn’t that just create a bigger gap from the highest scorer and the second highest?
Let’s say we have two people who picked FChamp to win.
Person A) picks 5 (Including Champ) of the mentioned top 8, and also 5 of the remaining 32.
Person B) picks only 4.(Including Champ) of the top 8, and 4 of the remaining 32.
With the normal approach for the “New Scoring System”;
Person A = 100 for champ, 50 x 4 for top 8, and 25 x 5 for top 32. Points = 425
Person B = 100 for champ, 50 x 3 for top 8, and 25 x 4 for top 32. Points = 350
With your suggestion it would be:
Person A = 100 for champ, 50 x 5 for top 8, and 25 x 10 for top 32. Points =600
Person B = 100 for champ, 50 x 4 for top 8, and 25 x 8 for top 32. Points = 500
See, the lead just gets bigger.
The only way it makes a difference is if the number of people in Top8 are different in each other’s lists.
I guess the only thing it could possibly do to use that suggestion is to increase the points of people who placed Top32 people in top8 slots, or Top8 slots only in top32.
But most of the time it would just result in most people getting +25 points for putting Infrit in their lists. (But the point leader should get +25 more cause he didn’t have Flocker in his top8)
If my quick glances are right, under the “new scoring system”, superwii64cube has the most points in that system.
And he has 5 in the top 8 already, so most people only matched that or got worse.
For comparison between superwii64cube and my list: (Old Scoring System)
He had 1/8-25th, 3/8-17th, 0/4-13th, 1/4-9th, 0/2-7th, 0/2-5th, 0/1-4th, 0/1-3rd, 0/1-2nd, 1/1-1st
I had 0/8-25th, 2/8-17th, 1/4-13th, 0/4-9th, 0/2-7th, 1/2-5th, 0/1-4th, 1/1-3rd, 0/1-2nd, 1/1-1st
So he got 1 more then me right, but on the lower scoring brackets.
We both got 2 with an 8-slot leeway.
The difference was that he guessed an extra 2 where he had a 8-slots leeway, and he got 1 with 4-slots of leeway.
But I guessed 1 with a 2-slot leeway, AND another 1 with no leeway at all.
Pretty much, my list works with the original scoring system he put up, and required more precise guessing. (Since the ones with fewer slots were the ones I got right)
But with the new scoring system:
He had 8-32ths, 4-8ths, and 1-1st
I had 5-32ths, 3-8ths, and 1-1st
He had much better luck with shotgunning the lower placers (And as you can see above, only slightly better at my list in the exact placement of them).
So the newer scoring system would greatly benefit this list which got a bunch of hits with 32th placers.
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PS: I like the arguments for using the new scoring system.
"so I hope you’ll clarify and stick to what what you decide regardless of people whining."
Because, any type of logical arguing = Whining.
I like that if multiple people can discuss multiple sides to an idea, (To use the new scoring system or the old, or a compromise) that it’s instantly just “Whining”.
I think I’ve brought up valid points, not just mindless “whining.”
also:
"who cares if he wants to change the rules, stop complaining this guy is giving every1 a free chance at 1300 dollars."
Yes, I understand it’s the guy’s choice, since I’ve said so on a couple of my posts.
Although what’s wrong with trying to convince Mictyson to just, as you marvel folks would put it, “Let it rock” with the original scoring system.
I believe he made a change to it prematurely, and one that completely disregards the top8 finals we saw yesterday. The placing of all but FChamp didn’t matter the the overall scoring of this thread with the new system, and that is pretty flawed, and Hypeless.
So I brought up, as I believe, valid points on why the original scoring should be considered again.
Who cares? … Uh, maybe people who could have won?
Also there might be people who have sportsmanship and like fair fights.
Such as Demon Dash, he put ChrisG to win, so he obviously already lost. But he gives the example:
“But doing so is like telling someone to run laps and then changing the rules and saying they lost because they ran the wrong way.”
Which makes perfect sense IMO.
I could easily give probably an endless amount of examples such as that.
'You are playing a game of blackjack, and you get an Ace and a King (Winning hand) for your deal. You don’t hit, and end up revealing your blackjack. But the dealer hits like 6 times regardless of what he had, and ends up with a total of 47 (This is normally far beyond a bust, or a lose). He says he wins and pockets your money, saying “We were playing to 50 points, my 47 is more then your 21”'
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I do agree that watching the fights, and hoping a specific person gets a specific result did increase the hype for me though.
I see why people take on these side type of side bets. XD
Although most side bets are just on a money match or something, so it’s just “Lemme pick my favorite / friend / ‘person on the same side of the coast as me’”, so they don’t really need something so specific as Flocker-5th, AND ChrisG-3rd.
Seth, don’t get too riled up until TC actually pays. As of now, we still don’t know if he will.
Him being a new member doesn’t exactly make it less suspicious.
It seems kind of strange to walk into a forum with your first post ever being that you’re throwing in $1300 for a contest with no excitement, or any hint of its legitimacy.
All I’m saying is don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
Although he said a new scoring system was to be used, he didn’t say how it would be applied, so I was just making a suggestion of how it could be. Your points were really valid though, I think they’re something mictyson10 should consider.
This was fun, and I liked seeing how the players currently measured up to each other. But yeah, it would be really unfortunate if someone who would have won in the previous scoring system ending up missing out in the new system. But I don’t think it’s a deliberate sabotaging on the hosts behalf (he was only trying to give everyone a better chance of winning), which was why I was trying (and slightly failing lol) to suggest a fair way of applying the new scoring system.
Is there a specific day this week that we can, at latest, expect the winner to be declared?
Sooo… Who won?
The OP, for trolling you all.
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Mame Spider won.
Yo, what happened to that paypal money nigga
Why ya’ll niggas think ya’ll were gonna actually get paypuh on da internet? Especially not even a named player in the scene or nothing. He’s just gonna dip like Batman.
I rated this thread a 5.
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At this point this seems bogus. I’ll lock the thread and we can all rue not getting something for free on the internet. If the OP actually does show back up, PM me and we can unlock it then.