What he said. You block a jump tatsu and it has enough hit stun to keep them in place till Nova hits and you get a cr.L out.
Wow first of all huge thanks guys, this is easily the most helpful board
I’ve seen since… well its the most helpful board I’ve seen, no
insults or trolling, fast, informative and well structured replies, so yeah, seriously thanks. :)<br>Now as for my actual question, the thing with Spencer was pretty much defined by both Disco and Marvelo<br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/46940/discovigilante">discovigilante</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>the pairing requires that you have a neutral assist in the back because Nova and Spencer both lack one. And with that, you sacrifice an assist for a TOD combo.<br></div></blockquote><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
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<div class=“QuoteText”><div style=“font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-weight: normal; font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; line-height: normal;”>Nova/Spencer
is very good. You kill off of ANY hit. 3 good mixups and you just won.
It’s very very good. However, like every team. It has it’s weaknesses.
You’re sacrificing a neutral assist for that Slant Shot. <br></div></div></blockquote><br>Basically, I don’t like Spencer, but he allows Nova to kill off any hit, without needing to rely on TAC infinites, which I feel is huge, on top of that Spencer is a really solid character on his own, benefits from the horizontal assist Nova needs to have anyways and is the only one who allows you to combo into crumple. His only weakness as a teammate for Nova is, as you guys mentioned, the fact his assist doesn’t offer much outside of combo extensions and thus forces me to sacrifice a good neutral assist.<br><br>As far as horizontal assists go I don’t like Strange or Sentinel, so that leaves, Weasel Shot, Plasma Beam, Unibeam and H Arrows, and I think, though I might be mistaken in which case Id appreciate being corrected, that Magneto and Hawkeye are too fast to be really useful for Nova. I feel Nova needs the full horizontal coverage too, so that eliminates Weasel Shot imo and of the remaining three Doom is the more solid character and probably the best anchor.<br><br>That is for horizontal assists though, all of which work with Spencer rather than replace him, so that leaves Spencer, Dante(Weasel or Jam). Akuma, Iron Man(Repulsor) Frank and Ammy as options to fill in the last spot I think, I don’t like Frank or Ammy myself though, so that eliminates those two. Akuma feels like the only good anchor out of the lot and I feel he works well with both Iron Man and Tasky. <br>So way I see it best teams I could come up with would be:<br><br>Nova/Taskmaster/Akuma<br>Nova/Iron Man/Akuma<br>Nova/Doom/Akuma<br>Nova/Iron Man/Doom<br>Nova/Dante/Doom<br>Nova/Taskmaster/Doom<br>Nova/Spencer/Doom<br><br>I know Im ignoring a few combinations like Dante. Tasky, Iron Man or even Spencer on anchor but I simply don’t feel that’s a good position for them, if I am mistaken please do correct me though.<br><br>Now the big question for me is whether any of those other teams offsets Spencer’s benefits, namely TOD’s without TAC infinites, its not even that I hate Spencer or anything, I don’t mind using him if he is the best option for Nova, it’s just I don’t particularly like him so if I can replace him for a character I actually like without hurting Nova’s ability to kill off one hit, and get a better neutral assist at the same time I’d much rather do that. So to sum it up, what do you guys think, is there anything I’m missing? And what’s the best team out of those seven?<br><br>Finally, my apologies for the wall of text, and once again thank you all.<br>
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Nova/Task/Akuma stands out to me as the best overall, great assist synergy for all 3 characters. Nova/Spencer/Doom is obviously really good too but since we were talking about non-Spencer teams…<div>Nova/Iron Man/Doom kinda piques my interest too, since you could either run Unibeam/Missiles or Repulsor/Plasma Beam. Not sure how that’d work out but it’d make for a unique team.</div><div>The rest are okay. I can’t think of any other combination with these characters that’s significantly better than what you’ve posted.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this all helps out.</div>
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<div class=“QuoteText”><br>Nova/Taskmaster/Akuma<br>Nova/Iron Man/Akuma<br>Nova/Doom/Akuma<br>Nova/Iron Man/Doom<br>Nova/Dante/Doom<br>Nova/Taskmaster/Doom<br>Nova/Spencer/Doom<br><br></div>
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I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br><br>Nova/Spencer/Doom<br>Nova/Doom/Ammy<br>Nova/Doom/Strider<br>Nova/Doom/Vergil<br>Nova/Dante/Strider<br>Nova/Dorm/Doom<br>Nova/Taskmaster/Vergil<br><br>Those are probably the best teams you can make with Nova. Just use one of these teams and you will be good.<br>
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Oh it does, quite so , thank you. 
Ive tried Tasky/Akuma in the past and it is definitely a very powerful combination, and I’d really like to find a use for Iron Man, personally I dont think he’s as bad as most people think, which is not to say he’s top tier or anything, but I don’t feel like using him automatically cripples a team and of the characters I use I feel Nova or Viper are the ones who could make better use of his assists to warrant putting him on the team. Honestly I think thats the one I’m leaning towards at the moment.<br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br></div>
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Care to ellaborate? Id like to know why you consider those to be the only viable anchors, particularly in Vergil’s case, I tried to use Vergil/Doom in place of Spencer some time ago, but while Vergil is always good I didnt feel he particularly benefitted Nova, which is why i went back to Spencer/ Doom<br>
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Oh it does, quite so , thank you. Ive tried Tasky/Akuma in the past and it is definitely a very powerful combination, and I’d really like to find a use for Iron Man, personally I dont think he’s as bad as most people think, which is not to say he’s top tier or anything, but I don’t feel like using him automatically cripples a team and of the characters I use I feel Nova or Viper are the ones who could make better use of his assists to warrant putting him on the team. Honestly I think thats the one I’m leaning towards at the moment.<br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br></div>
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Care to ellaborate? Id like to know why you consider those to be the only viable anchors, particularly in Vergil’s case, I tried to use Vergil/Doom in place of Spencer some time ago, but while Vergil is always good I didnt feel he particularly benefitted Nova, which is why i went back to Spencer/ Doom<br></div>
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To be honest, ignore anyone talking like that. Play what you want and like to play. I don’t play any of those characters and I know I’m doing fine. Actually, I want you to try out Nova Iron Man Akuma…i think that team has potential once you put in a lot of work and get a lot of experience with it. All I will say is that the team is a glass cannon so you’re going to have to worry about getting hit.
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Oh it does, quite so , thank you. Ive tried Tasky/Akuma in the past and it is definitely a very powerful combination, and I’d really like to find a use for Iron Man, personally I dont think he’s as bad as most people think, which is not to say he’s top tier or anything, but I don’t feel like using him automatically cripples a team and of the characters I use I feel Nova or Viper are the ones who could make better use of his assists to warrant putting him on the team. Honestly I think thats the one I’m leaning towards at the moment.<br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br></div>
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Care to ellaborate? Id like to know why you consider those to be the only viable anchors, particularly in Vergil’s case, I tried to use Vergil/Doom in place of Spencer some time ago, but while Vergil is always good I didnt feel he particularly benefitted Nova, which is why i went back to Spencer/ Doom<br></div>
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To be honest, ignore anyone talking like that. Play what you want and like to play. I don’t play any of those characters and I know I’m doing fine. Actually, I want you to try out Nova Iron Man Akuma…i think that team has potential once you put in a lot of work and get a lot of experience with it. All I will say is that the team is a glass cannon so you’re going to have to worry about getting hit.
Well first of all I should say thank you, it was your video that taught me about the double super nova, and Im pretty sure when I was using Tasky I also learned a few other things from your videos, so thanks man.<br>As for people talking that way, I dont necessarily agree that every character has just one right way to be played, but I think its a given that certain combinations will work better for less effort, and learning a little more is something Im always open to, which is why I’d like to know his reasoning behind that statement.<br>I’ve actually seen a very nice Iron Man/Akuma before, so I can attest to the potential, and its always cool to see the repulsor combos. That said the truth is I feel much more comfortable with Iron Man/Doom than Iron Man/Akuma, better DHC’s and arguably better assists for Nova, but I haven’t decided yet.<br>
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I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br><br>Nova/Spencer/Doom<br>Nova/Doom/Ammy<br>Nova/Doom/Strider<br>Nova/Doom/Vergil<br>Nova/Dante/Strider<br>Nova/Dorm/Doom<br>Nova/Taskmaster/Vergil<br><br>Those are probably the best teams you can make with Nova. Just use one of these teams and you will be good.<br></div>
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You’re implying that trading anchor strength for stronger neutral game is never a smart decision. I can say with confidence that isn’t always true.<br>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>Well first of all I should say thank you, it was your video that taught me about the double super nova, and Im pretty sure when I was using Tasky I also learned a few other things from your videos, so thanks man.<br>As for people talking that way, I dont necessarily agree that every character has just one right way to be played, but I think its a given that certain combinations will work better for less effort, and learning a little more is something Im always open to, which is why I’d like to know his reasoning behind that statement.<br>I’ve actually seen a very nice Iron Man/Akuma before, so I can attest to the potential, and its always cool to see the repulsor combos. That said the truth is I feel much more comfortable with Iron Man/Doom than Iron Man/Akuma, better DHC’s and arguably better assists for Nova, but I haven’t decided yet.<br></div>
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<font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You are very welcome…it’s good to know my videos are helping people out. I must say though, the double super Nova was not my discovery. The guy that found it is just not on SRK so people don’t get to see his videos…they are sick. Check them out</span></font><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>http://www.youtube.com/user/Drakengard32/videos?flow=grid&view=0</span></font><br></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>But yeah when I really think about it, That team is pretty cool…I’m going to hit the lab and see whassap with them right now.</span></font></div>
Just because idk to edit with this new layout >_<, Akuma allows Nova to link 2 Super Novas with a LEVEL ONE H Pulse =)). Damage is only like 890k but it’s definitely a start =))))
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<p class=“MsoNormal”>Vergil gives Nova ToD combos off of any touch just like
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KO;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA”><br>Rapid Slash is actually a really good assist for
Nova.<br>
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It is great for combo extensions.<br>
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It can keeps all versions of his Centurion Rushes safe (L,M, and H).<br>
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It can keeps all versions of his Nova Strike safe.<br>
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You get a GFTO projectile by doing Grav Pulse L/M + Rapid Slash.<br>
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My personal favorite is j.S + Rapid Slash. If j. S hits, then the person
will hard knockdown. If j. S hits and the person blocks, then Rapid Slash
will push them into the corner. So you can basically stop your opponent’s
approach by doing j. S + Rapid Slash every time they try to make an advance at
you. It is a great defensive option and gives Nova a helm breaker/foot
dive type of move which is really strong to have in this game. It is safe
as long as you don’t do it when the guy is at the very edge of the screen where
rapid slash is not pushing the guy away from your j. S anymore.<br>
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Oh and lastly, Rapid Slash gives Nova god-like incoming mix-ups. Just
call Vergil and do any move that has an ambiguous cross over (j. S, centurion
rush, f+H, etc.). You can also do meaty incoming mix-ups by doing
j.S + rapid slash or javelin under them + rapid slash. They are forced to
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<div class=“QuoteText”>Just because idk to edit with this new layout >_<, Akuma allows Nova to link 2 Super Novas with a LEVEL ONE H Pulse =)). Damage is only like 890k but it’s definitely a start =))))</div>
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Oh it does, quite so , thank you. Ive tried Tasky/Akuma in the past and it is definitely a very powerful combination, and I’d really like to find a use for Iron Man, personally I dont think he’s as bad as most people think, which is not to say he’s top tier or anything, but I don’t feel like using him automatically cripples a team and of the characters I use I feel Nova or Viper are the ones who could make better use of his assists to warrant putting him on the team. Honestly I think thats the one I’m leaning towards at the moment.<br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br></div>
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Care to ellaborate? Id like to know why you consider those to be the only viable anchors, particularly in Vergil’s case, I tried to use Vergil/Doom in place of Spencer some time ago, but while Vergil is always good I didnt feel he particularly benefitted Nova, which is why i went back to Spencer/ Doom<br></div>
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To be honest, ignore anyone talking like that. Play what you want and like to play. I don’t play any of those characters and I know I’m doing fine. Actually, I want you to try out Nova Iron Man Akuma…i think that team has potential once you put in a lot of work and get a lot of experience with it. All I will say is that the team is a glass cannon so you’re going to have to worry about getting hit.</div>
</blockquote><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I disagree completely. If you want to play a high level team, it needs to be optimal. Eventually you’re going to be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve stuck with learning such a gimped team. Idk why you guys are disagreeing with Prolifik. He’s right. If you play Marvel for the competitive aspect and you want to win. Recommending someone to play Nova/IronMan/Akuma isn’t a good idea. Sure, you can make some interesting combos for the team, but eventually you’ll be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve put work in on it. Ironman doesn’t take full advantage of Akuma assist. Not like he would with drones or log trap even. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>If you want to play Ironman and you’re stuck with that idea. Play either, Nova/Spencer/Ironman or Nova/Ironman/Sentinel. Both of those would be okay. The latter would require even more work. Something like Nova/Ironman/RR would even better since Ironman takes advantage of Log Trap even more than he does Tatsu. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You’re beating yourself in the head if you think that playing a suboptimal team is a good idea. That’s unless you just play the game for a couple casual matches here and there and just wanna play for fun. But if you want to take it a little more serious and put work into it. Remember that winning is fun too. </span></font></div>
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Oh it does, quite so , thank you. Ive tried Tasky/Akuma in the past and it is definitely a very powerful combination, and I’d really like to find a use for Iron Man, personally I dont think he’s as bad as most people think, which is not to say he’s top tier or anything, but I don’t feel like using him automatically cripples a team and of the characters I use I feel Nova or Viper are the ones who could make better use of his assists to warrant putting him on the team. Honestly I think thats the one I’m leaning towards at the moment.<br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/66210/prolifik88">prolifik88</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br></div>
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Care to ellaborate? Id like to know why you consider those to be the only viable anchors, particularly in Vergil’s case, I tried to use Vergil/Doom in place of Spencer some time ago, but while Vergil is always good I didnt feel he particularly benefitted Nova, which is why i went back to Spencer/ Doom<br></div>
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To be honest, ignore anyone talking like that. Play what you want and like to play. I don’t play any of those characters and I know I’m doing fine. Actually, I want you to try out Nova Iron Man Akuma…i think that team has potential once you put in a lot of work and get a lot of experience with it. All I will say is that the team is a glass cannon so you’re going to have to worry about getting hit.</div>
</blockquote><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I disagree completely. If you want to play a high level team, it needs to be optimal. Eventually you’re going to be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve stuck with learning such a gimped team. Idk why you guys are disagreeing with Prolifik. He’s right. If you play Marvel for the competitive aspect and you want to win. Recommending someone to play Nova/IronMan/Akuma isn’t a good idea. Sure, you can make some interesting combos for the team, but eventually you’ll be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve put work in on it. Ironman doesn’t take full advantage of Akuma assist. Not like he would with drones or log trap even. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>If you want to play Ironman and you’re stuck with that idea. Play either, Nova/Spencer/Ironman or Nova/Ironman/Sentinel. Both of those would be okay. The latter would require even more work. Something like Nova/Ironman/RR would even better since Ironman takes advantage of Log Trap even more than he does Tatsu. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You’re beating yourself in the head if you think that playing a suboptimal team is a good idea. That’s unless you just play the game for a couple casual matches here and there and just wanna play for fun. But if you want to take it a little more serious and put work into it. Remember that winning is fun too. </span></font></div></div>
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I just feel like it’s no person’s place to tell another person what they should or should not play is all. I felt almost as if the original poster was bullying people to pick what a majority believes to be the best options. If people don’t keep an open mind and remain willing to try new stuff, we will force ourselves into a box. I agree with anyone who has legit reasons for their theories and I respect anyone who has enough insight, experience, and skill to be considered trustworthy but there are too many characters in this game to not at least give them a try YOURSELF just because other people say it’s not worth it. Let individuals make that decision on their own feel me? I will forever use this reference in convos like this…A wise and skillful man once said Adon was ass.
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Oh it does, quite so , thank you. Ive tried Tasky/Akuma in the past and it is definitely a very powerful combination, and I’d really like to find a use for Iron Man, personally I dont think he’s as bad as most people think, which is not to say he’s top tier or anything, but I don’t feel like using him automatically cripples a team and of the characters I use I feel Nova or Viper are the ones who could make better use of his assists to warrant putting him on the team. Honestly I think thats the one I’m leaning towards at the moment.<br><br><blockquote class=“Quote”>
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<div class=“QuoteText”>I honestly think that any Nova team that doesn’t have Ammy, Strider, Doom, or Vergil on anchor position is going to be gimped in a way. Those are really the only viable anchors for Nova in my opinion. If you are not running one of those characters, then you have to risk running a mediocre anchor just for a better assist for Nova.<br></div>
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Care to ellaborate? Id like to know why you consider those to be the only viable anchors, particularly in Vergil’s case, I tried to use Vergil/Doom in place of Spencer some time ago, but while Vergil is always good I didnt feel he particularly benefitted Nova, which is why i went back to Spencer/ Doom<br></div>
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To be honest, ignore anyone talking like that. Play what you want and like to play. I don’t play any of those characters and I know I’m doing fine. Actually, I want you to try out Nova Iron Man Akuma…i think that team has potential once you put in a lot of work and get a lot of experience with it. All I will say is that the team is a glass cannon so you’re going to have to worry about getting hit.</div>
</blockquote><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I disagree completely. If you want to play a high level team, it needs to be optimal. Eventually you’re going to be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve stuck with learning such a gimped team. Idk why you guys are disagreeing with Prolifik. He’s right. If you play Marvel for the competitive aspect and you want to win. Recommending someone to play Nova/IronMan/Akuma isn’t a good idea. Sure, you can make some interesting combos for the team, but eventually you’ll be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve put work in on it. Ironman doesn’t take full advantage of Akuma assist. Not like he would with drones or log trap even. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>If you want to play Ironman and you’re stuck with that idea. Play either, Nova/Spencer/Ironman or Nova/Ironman/Sentinel. Both of those would be okay. The latter would require even more work. Something like Nova/Ironman/RR would even better since Ironman takes advantage of Log Trap even more than he does Tatsu. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You’re beating yourself in the head if you think that playing a suboptimal team is a good idea. That’s unless you just play the game for a couple casual matches here and there and just wanna play for fun. But if you want to take it a little more serious and put work into it. Remember that winning is fun too. </span></font></div></div>
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I just feel like it’s no person’s place to tell another person what they should or should not play is all. I felt almost as if the original poster was bullying people to pick what a majority believes to be the best options. If people don’t keep an open mind and remain willing to try new stuff, we will force ourselves into a box. I agree with anyone who has legit reasons for their theories and I respect anyone who has enough insight, experience, and skill to be considered trustworthy but there are too many characters in this game to not at least give them a try YOURSELF just because other people say it’s not worth it. Let individuals make that decision on their own feel me? I will forever use this reference in convos like this…A wise and skillful man once said Adon was ass.</div>
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The thing is…People have already experimented with certain shells already. Ironman is viable but with certain assists. Go to the Ironman forums and have them tell you who he’s viable with. Players that have put in hours upon hours of time into the character. Ironman/Akuma is okay at best.</span></font><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; line-height: normal;”><span style=“font-family: ‘lucida grande’, ‘Lucida Sans Unicode’, tahoma, sans-serif; line-height: 1.7em;”><br></span></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>Having said that. We’re talking about Nova. We know Nova’s strengths and weaknesses and I can tell you what Ironman will give you. Will Nova/Ironman/Akuma be an optimized team? No. </span></font></div><div><span style=“line-height: 1.7em;”><br></span></div><div><span style=“line-height: 1.7em;”>He asked for advice, and I gave him legit advice. You either play to win or play for fun. If you’re going to play to win, you’ll be doing yourself a disservice. Can it work? Sure it can work. But it wont be CHEAP. Which is what you need in a Marvel team. Your shit needs to fucking cheap.</span><br></div>
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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/24904/Marvelo">Marvelo</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”><br><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I disagree completely. If you want to play a high level team, it needs to be optimal. Eventually you’re going to be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve stuck with learning such a gimped team. Idk why you guys are disagreeing with Prolifik. He’s right. If you play Marvel for the competitive aspect and you want to win. Recommending someone to play Nova/IronMan/Akuma isn’t a good idea. Sure, you can make some interesting combos for the team, but eventually you’ll be beating yourself in the head as to why you’ve put work in on it. Ironman doesn’t take full advantage of Akuma assist. Not like he would with drones or log trap even. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>If you want to play Ironman and you’re stuck with that idea. Play either, Nova/Spencer/Ironman or Nova/Ironman/Sentinel. Both of those would be okay. The latter would require even more work. Something like Nova/Ironman/RR would even better since Ironman takes advantage of Log Trap even more than he does Tatsu. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>You’re beating yourself in the head if you think that playing a suboptimal team is a good idea. That’s unless you just play the game for a couple casual matches here and there and just wanna play for fun. But if you want to take it a little more serious and put work into it. Remember that winning is fun too. </span></font></div></div>
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Optimal is dependent upon what you place value upon. While there are some situations where a particular character(s) are a clear cut above the field for rounding out a team, in almost all instances every decision in team building comes with some tradeoff. I personally think having a stronger neutral game for your points is more important than having an XF3 comeback machine because if your points are doing their job you shouldn’t -need- an XF3 comeback machine (not to mention it can make you be more constrained in how you use XF. I’m still trying to unravel the mentality of having Akuma in the back for my vanilla team and always saving it for him, realizing there are other situations I can use XF better than saving it for my last).<br>
<font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I don’t want to get entirely into this disagreement, but I felt like I should insert two cents. </span></font><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>There are so many assists that work with a character, moreso for higher tiers. Usually playing two characters you like with decent synergy, and finding the one or two third members to make that pairing fantastic, is the way to go. It’s more rewarding to play players you like, in my opinion, but that does not mean you need to abandon the cheap shit. I wanted to propose a middleground. Almost anything can be cheap with enough labbing.</div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>For Ewig, did some thinking, here’s all I could come up with. I didn’t really say much about certain pairings, as I’m not comfortable recommending something I haven’t labbed/fought with myself.</div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>It seems you’re a fan of Akuma, and for Nova first and Akuma anchor, probably some of the better non-Spencer choices are Taskmaster and Vergil. </div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><span style=“font-size: 10pt;”>Taskmaster benefits from Centurion Rush by adding a huge improvement to his high/low game, which honestly without a low/overhead assist, is not that great. Also, any delayed midscreen assist can be turned into really potent pressure with Tasky, and between that and tatsu, Tasky is a pressure god. </span></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>Vergil second rather than anchor gives the possibility of Taekua-style unblockables with Centurion rush, and not just when there’s a snapback. And Vergil benefits from way too many horizontal assists, Tatsu included. It’s not fullscreen, which is saddening, but it’s not too big a loss, considering how terrifying the team is from halfscreen and closer. </div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>I’m more familiar with the Taskmaster side of things, so for anchors for Nova/Task, either Sparda bro (thought Dante has some problems here), Doom on actually any assist, Mags, Hawkeye, Arthur (if you give truly 0 fucks). If you keep Task’s horizontal assist I’d say put Nova second, so the assists aren’t redundant. Task has good opening game too.</div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>If you’re set on Dante for Nova, though, Tasky is decent, just there are a few problems with Tasky converting off of unblockables, but he does get them for days with Jam Session. If you’re going to Tasky/Dante, I don’t think Nova’s an ideal third. For Nova/Dante, go Doom anchor, you seemed to like him anchor more than other options. I don’t think I need to elaborate how Nova/Dante/Doom is good.</div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”><br></div><div style=“font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;”>One more strange suggestion. If you are interested in Nova/IM, and don’t want to go with the standard IM/Sent, try Log Trap. Log is pretty great with most characters, and Nova’s no exception. You’d think Log and IM would take a lot of work, but it’s surprising, you can play amazing defense with IM’s ranged tools and Log Trap, a repulsor blast gets great conversions. RR anchor is underrated. TACs either way have the option of doable infinites, and DHCing like crazy to Trap Super just puts you at such an advantage. The incomings are much more than okay. The only way this team doesn’t sound optimal is I have no clue what benefits IM gets from Nova’s assists. Experiment, see how it works. </div>