too bad mega gengar is faster than dugtrio and gengars almost always carry substitute
Sucker Punch. However, if it gets that Sub up, Dugtrio’s in trouble.
But that’s the Metagame.
Sucker Punch > Gengar coverage attack
Substitute > Sucker Punch
Earthquake > Substitute.
you can’t just sucker punch, if you sucker punch and gengar uses sub you lose, so your alternative is earthquake…but then you risk him using shadow ball which i’m fairly certain would OHKO dugtrio…so you lose
it’s not a counter and barely even a check, it’s a complete mind fuckery of who can outpredict who and gengar has the less risky predictions (as even if he subs and dugtrio earthquakes, he could probably still win)
Which is what I put in the post. Didn’t say it was a check. Just said that it’s a mind game.
But the reality is that right now, I can’t think of a legitimate counter/check on Mega Gengar. Dugtrio CAN beat him, but it’s requires mind reading. Scarf Trio might be able to do it though.
does scarf trios earthquake OHKO mega gengar?
also, gengar likes to carry disable which could screw everything up
mega gengar is most likely getting banned, that speed with shadow tag to go with his really high special attack…it’s just dumb
Rather than quote our friend here thats the beauty of strategic battles and mind games. Sub? Attack? Are you feeling lucky? And on top of that your opponent. Knowing them can help too.
Mega Gengar is even more frail than normal Gengar. A Scarf Trio EQ should drop it like a fly.
All this MegaGengar fear has me thinking… How would MegaKangaskhan’s Pursuit work? Would just do the regular Pursuit thing, or will you get a Parental Bond-boosted Pursuit that hits twice and will surely kill MegaGengar whether it retreats or stays?
All this talk of banning things and the game hasn’t even released yet… I can hear the anuses puckering from here…
Smogon is already losing their shit suggesting putting MegaMewtwo Y in its own tier… SMH
it gets like +50 in defense, i mean it still won’t survive trio’s earthquake (i was being hopeful) but it is never OHKO’d by banded scizor’s bullet punch
What I’m worried about is this. Scarf Trio is only a counter if Mega Gengar is…well Mega. If you know the opponent has Trio, you don’t have to Mega Evolve right away. And Base Gengar cares little about Trio.
- More. Days.
i think mega kanga’s ability works like a multi hitting move, so it would break the sub first and then hit gengar, but this move works for every move
so multi hitting moves could attack up to 10 times, spite hitting twice could royally screw over switch-ins, stat lowering moves like screech are really effective at forcing switches (no one wants to be -3 at anything)
Hell MegaGengar might not even show. Could be another poke in the party. The thought has me both scared and excited. This is why i love pokemon!
Like I said, the mindgames that can be played with MegaEvolving are just too sick. The timing that you go Mega, whether or not that is your only Mega Stone user, or if you’re just running an okie-doke play and actually have a Life Orb/Choice Item/etc.
Suddenly, all those dudes with Frisk look a little more attractive…
Oh yeah, Mega Stones can’t be Tricked or Knocked Off either, lol.*
Which makes Scarf Rotom-W less appealing as now there will be Pokes it can’t Trick.
I wonder if Rougrh Helmet will work multiple times on MegaKangaskhan, considering that the baby Kangaskhan is its own entity?
you could trick a scarf onto a gengar that hasn’t megavolved…but i’m pretty sure that would make it really scary anyways so you’re screwed no matter what
If they have a Mega Stone, no you can’t even if they haven’t Evolved.
And if they don’t have one…why the hell would I put a Scarf on Gengar? Last thing I want is to make it a Revenge Killer.
you can’t even knock off the item if they haven’t used it yet? wow…that’s pretty absurd
and i would assume that kanga would get hurt twice from rough helmet so if a ferrothorn carried a rough helmet and there were 3 layers of spikes and SR out…pretty certain kanga would be down to 30% life left
Mega Gengar = Fairy Killer