Pokemon General Discussion Thread - It's Lit(ten)!

I have a few 4iv Calm Leech Seed Chickorita For Trade. Does anyone have HA Timbur by any chance

Isn’t he only available via PokeBank, which isn’t up yet?

Yeah, but a lot of shit got through while it was out.

I hope someone can bring an Aerodactyl from fire red with double edge.

Double Edge + Rock Head = yes please

I got you later today.

Hey, since you’re the man with everything…would you happen to have a HA Squirtle/Wartortle? :bgrin:

Gonna breed some Jolly Rough Skin Gibles with Outrage and Iron Head later. Anybody want? I’m looking for Brave or Timid Serene Grace Togepi, Jolly Honedge, and a Jolly Smeargle with Stealh Rock. On an unrelated note, Fuck Smogonflame, that shit should be banned.

Yea. I believe I have some with Aura Sphere and Dragon Pulse as well.

Garchomp with Iron Head? That’s a first…

To be fair, there were no Fairies last gen. He had no reason to run it.

Yeah, Fairies had to go and force Garchomp to actually use more of his movepool. The only fairy I even like is Togekiss… and Klefki…

i prefer poison jab over iron head if garchomp’s going to run something against fairies.

I use poison jab cause does more to that water rabbit where iron head is neutral.

earthquakes BP is 150 when accounting for stab
poison jab and iron head have 160 BP when SE, it’s not really worth it to carry those moves, as this only leaves togekiss to cover, who takes more from stone edge than either of those moves (200 BP move)
leaving his fourth move to be fire fang/fire blast to nab those KOs on ferrothorn and skarmory

there is no reason to run poison jab or iron head for fairy coverage when his EQ deals almost as much damage as they do and provides a more threatening attack

252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 196-232 (48.5 - 57.4%) – 94.1% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 212-250 (52.4 - 61.8%) – guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 154-183 (39 - 46.4%) – guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Garchomp Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 166-196 (42.1 - 49.7%) – guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

i’m not going to calc klefki, mawile, and togekiss as EQ (for klefki and mawile) and Stone Edge (for togekiss) definitely do more damage to the pokes than either poison jab and iron head, there is literally no reason to run either of these moves on garchomp as these are the only 2 fairies you would worry about with his standard move choices of dragon move/EQ/stone edge/fire move

Already got ones with Aura Sphere/Dragon Pulse, I’m just missing one with a HA.

My chomps are choice (banded or scarfed depends on team) so I hit and run regardless but while I’m in I might as well get the sure damage. I value accuracy over power and to a lesser degree speed. Your calcs just proved that Poison jab does more. I have been successful with it and will keep it thank you very much. Jab’s chance to poison has worked as well over the chance to crit with stone edge whcih is more consistent and works with my team. I just don’t run stone edge cause I have missed too many times in the past both on online sims and on my DS to cost me a match.

you’re using poison jab for 2 pokemon while only doing 4% more…

good job

Can we move Pokemon theorycrafting to the competitive thread where it’s supposed to be? :coffee:

sorry, it is kinda my fault it started. I will be putting some gibles on Wondertrade if noone wants them.

Mawile > other Fairies

You are doing it all wrong!

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